2009 HHR Horrible vibrating from the front end
10-05-2019, 09:08 AM
#21
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Well guy's I finally got the vibrating issued fixed . After I had enough and the suspension on the car is brand new now I brought the car to a local repair shop . One guy looked at it and said everything looked good but said it had a bad vibration to it , Thanks guy !
So next they brought the car to another part of the shop and used a forced tire balancer and found out that there was some high spots in the tires possibly from carbon deposits . OMG the car runs and drives like a dream now !
The positive side of this is that I learned alot about it and that possibly that my tire balancer needs to be re-calibrated , I was amazed it didn't pick it up but I guess even though a static balancer is used sometimes the problem will not be found .
So next they brought the car to another part of the shop and used a forced tire balancer and found out that there was some high spots in the tires possibly from carbon deposits . OMG the car runs and drives like a dream now !
The positive side of this is that I learned alot about it and that possibly that my tire balancer needs to be re-calibrated , I was amazed it didn't pick it up but I guess even though a static balancer is used sometimes the problem will not be found .
If by static balancer you mean the old "bubble balancer", well that would explain why you didn't catch it originally. I wouldn't use one of those things to balance a lawnmower tire much less a car tire.
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10-07-2019, 08:17 AM
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Static is to balance just the back or centre of the wheel, no weights on the outside.
dynamic balance is to balance the inside and outside of the wheel.
I don’t like the weights in the outside, the clips can chip and damage the rims , so I use tape on weights on the inside of the wheel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_balance
a more through explanation, CatMan
dynamic balance is to balance the inside and outside of the wheel.
I don’t like the weights in the outside, the clips can chip and damage the rims , so I use tape on weights on the inside of the wheel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_balance
a more through explanation, CatMan
10-07-2019, 12:06 PM
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Back when I was young we only had a bubble balancer in the tire shop. After a while the threw a "spin balancer" on the floor and they charged extra for us to do it with absolutely no training past "plug this part into the wall and attach this wheel cover looking thing to the wheel".
10-07-2019, 12:29 PM
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Back when I was young we only had a bubble balancer in the tire shop. After a while the threw a "spin balancer" on the floor and they charged extra for us to do it with absolutely no training past "plug this part into the wall and attach this wheel cover looking thing to the wheel".
Once you got the hang of it, it was a great tool to use.
You had to mark the wheel/tire because it balanced the brake drum or rotor also as a unit.
Getting to learn the two red and green knobs was the trick to the whole thing.
Use to put my chin on the front fender to feel the balance vibrations better.
Some people said to use a glass of water.
Never used it on rear tires.
10-07-2019, 12:45 PM
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Wouldn't work on rears or many disc (because the pads drag), only a few disc brakes then.
That clear plastic stick with the rubber tip was supposed to be the vibration detector if your chin couldn't make it.
That clear plastic stick with the rubber tip was supposed to be the vibration detector if your chin couldn't make it.
10-07-2019, 01:15 PM
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Use to retract the pads on disc brake cars before balancing.
Used on front wheel drive cars, had to support control arms for "correct ride height" when on the lift.
Rear beam cars could be balanced, but used a dynamic balancer off the car worked just fine.
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