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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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I don't know what the tensioner would have to do with "only when the A/C is on"! The serpentine belt ALWAYS turns as does the tensioner and the alternator.

Please explain how the tensioner would lock up only when the A/C is turned on. I feel like I'm having one of those "speaking in tongues days". 2+2=4 still?

Maybe there is a little man living under the hood that puts his hand over the air intake at stop signs ONLY WHEN THE A/C IS ON.

I told the doctor my eye hurts only when I drink tea. The doctor thought it might have something to do with the refrigerator running. No way could it be the spoon in the cup.
Old Jun 17, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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I’m out.

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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
I don't know what the tensioner would have to do with "only when the A/C is on"! The serpentine belt ALWAYS turns as does the tensioner and the alternator.

Please explain how the tensioner would lock up only when the A/C is turned on. I feel like I'm having one of those "speaking in tongues days". 2+2=4 still?

Maybe there is a little man living under the hood that puts his hand over the air intake at stop signs ONLY WHEN THE A/C IS ON.

I told the doctor my eye hurts only when I drink tea. The doctor thought it might have something to do with the refrigerator running. No way could it be the spoon in the cup.
I think more or less the compressor but it blows cold .. it seems like it’s not dying but when I stop it likes to cut out but it returns to operate.. the tensioner is original with 2580000 so maybe I will change it out and see ..
Old Jun 18, 2018 | 08:29 AM
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A wild guess from a different angle.
The ECM is supposed to adjust the idle speed when the compressor is engaged.
It's to compensate for the additional power it takes to turn the compressor.
Maybe try the battery "lobotomy" to reboot the ECM ? (Disconnect the negative battery post for 15 mins. )

It's a free attempted fix and only 1 bolt to take loose. Worth a try.
Old Jun 18, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
I see I need to explain.

The A/C compressor has bearings. The bearings wear out and bind. When the engine speed is high it can overcome the resistance, when it is low the compressor acts as a brake.

When you turn the A/C off the clutch is freewheeling, so the bearing is not turning.
Shouldn't the computer increase the engine power to overcome that?
Old Jun 18, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by db2006
Shouldn't the computer increase the engine power to overcome that?
Not when the load is too high. The ECM can only give power to a limit and that's it.
When there is a parasitic load it will physically drag the RPM of the engine down and cause problems.
And I do like Don's theory, it goes hand in hand with the tensioner bearing going "south".
Old Jun 22, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
Not when the load is too high. The ECM can only give power to a limit and that's it.
When there is a parasitic load it will physically drag the RPM of the engine down and cause problems.
And I do like Don's theory, it goes hand in hand with the tensioner bearing going "south".
The ECM can take the system to full throttle. It does it all the time on cruise control.
Old Jun 22, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by db2006
The ECM can take the system to full throttle. It does it all the time on cruise control.
Within the correct parameters, i.e. to maintain the speed of a moving vehicle. T
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