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Leroy Cook 11-02-2018 07:10 PM

Driver side window not working
 
The driver side window stop working. I replaced the regulator with a new one. But when I applied power to the old one it worked!! I bought a new switch assembly with a new one. (I think it was new) It did not cure my problem. I checked and there is no power going to the motor. I check all fuses pertaining to the power windows. All windows work except the drivers side.

WHAT AM I MISSING ??

donbrew 11-02-2018 07:23 PM

The embarrassing question is what about the lock out?

Leroy Cook 11-02-2018 07:31 PM

The lock out is working !

RJ_RS_SS_350 11-02-2018 07:33 PM

Which window, front or rear?

donbrew 11-02-2018 07:34 PM

The wire must have a break in it, both wires come directly from the switch. The driver switch has some sort of logic built in for the "one touch toll" feature.

The conduit plugs into the door, could be failure point.

Leroy Cook 11-03-2018 10:35 AM

I'am not getting power to the up/down switch. How does the voltage get to the switch ? All windows work except the drivers side !!

donbrew 11-03-2018 10:53 AM

Assuming this is a 2006

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Leroy Cook 11-09-2018 02:26 PM

I have replaced the window switch with two NEW ones and the drivers side window still will not work. I hear a clicking but there is no window movement. Could it be the EXPRESS LOCK ? Is this not part of the window switch?? If not where is this EXPRESS LOCK ?

Leroy Cook 11-09-2018 02:28 PM

This is on a 2010 HHR !

donbrew 11-09-2018 02:30 PM

If you hear clicking either the motor is bad or you didn't install the regulator right.

The wiring is pretty simple, no scary computers involved. Dare I say: take the door panel off and observe?

Here is the 2010 circuit; the other 2 windows are typical of the left rear shown.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...43043278bb.png

RJ_RS_SS_350 11-09-2018 02:35 PM

I'll ask again, is this driver side front or rear? It matters.

And which switch did you replace?

Leroy Cook 11-09-2018 02:37 PM

I installed a new motor assembly. Both the old one and the new one works when I supply 12 Volots directly to the motors.

donbrew 11-09-2018 04:20 PM

I have been assuming "driver's side windows" means the side window for the driver. If not, then my first question stands. You are aware of the window lock button on the driver's front door? That little button forward of the other buttons, has a red stripe on it as an indicator. When the switch is in lock mode the rear window switches are disabled.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...5410d139dc.png

Leroy Cook 11-09-2018 05:27 PM

Yes I am talking about the drivers side window. Mine has a indicator lamp. This is working. The light comes on and off. This is true for the original switch and both of the new switches I have. When I try to put the window up or down I hear a relay but nothing happens. There is no voltage comeing out of the switch.

donbrew 11-09-2018 05:36 PM

There is no relay! Look at the wiring diagrams.

Well, there is the RAP relay as noted on the diagram, but that should affect all of the windows.

Leroy Cook 11-09-2018 06:07 PM

It sure does sound like a relay ! It makes a sound !!

guppy 11-11-2018 03:30 PM

Leroy!
Lets get your window working. So you got a 2010 HHR. I assume we are talking about the front left window. You replaced the motor, but you tested the old motor and it works. How did you test it? You replaced the switch with a used switch? Did you look at the drawing that DonBrew posted? Do you understand the drawing? When you pop the driver window switch out, you need to check voltages.
You should read 12volts between the Blk wire and the Brown wire when you press the Down button
You should read 12volts between the Blk wire and the Drk Blu wire when you press the Up button

This is just a process, this by no means proves that your switch is functional. I see lots of switches that can pass a voltage but can not pass current. But lets just make sure you are getting these voltages here before we get too deep. If you had the pigtail that plugs into a driver door switch, this is idea to check continuity thru the switches. I would always ask permission before cutting pigtails off at junkyards, most do not care at all.

With limited knowledge about your car, I am betting on either a bad switch (had one myself) or like Don Brew said a bad wire, specifically inside that corrugated rubber tube where it jumps from the door to the body. Keep us posted with your findings and we will keep feeding you info until we get this resolved.

Leroy Cook 11-11-2018 07:41 PM

I am not home this week so I can not look at the HHR. The driver side will not move. When I move the switch there is some kind of klicking sound. As if there is a relay ! I checked out the old regulator and the new one by suppling 12 VDC direct to the plug. Both will move. Reverse the wires and the motors reverse. I can not tell what wire supplies voltage to the switch. When I get home I will check out the wiring that goes though the door. WHAT COLOR WIRE IS THE SUPPLY ? DKGRN Pin H ?

guppy 11-16-2018 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Leroy Cook (Post 855574)
I am not home this week so I can not look at the HHR. The driver side will not move. When I move the switch there is some kind of klicking sound. As if there is a relay ! I checked out the old regulator and the new one by suppling 12 VDC direct to the plug. Both will move. Reverse the wires and the motors reverse. I can not tell what wire supplies voltage to the switch. When I get home I will check out the wiring that goes though the door. WHAT COLOR WIRE IS THE SUPPLY ? DKGRN Pin H ?

Yup. I would print out the drawing so you got something to refernece as you are troubleshooting.

Leroy Cook 11-22-2018 03:31 PM

Well I returned home and starting working on the non working window switch. Here is what I have found ! There is no current going to the window motor. When I unplug the connector to the motor and check it with a Meter I have 9.0- 11. volts. When I check it with a test light the light will not come on.When I check it with the test light and the meter thre is no voltage.
This is with the new window switch
20945129 That I got from NEOBSTORE on the internet. I also have another new switch and it will not work either.
I also checked the ground and installed a jumper directly from the black wire on the switch to the groung. ( Bolt on the door.) The window motor can work when I apply volage directly to the conector of the motor. From what I concluded the switch ( Both of them) will not pass power to run the motor.

Have I missed something?

Greybeard999 11-22-2018 04:04 PM

It seems you are checking for voltage from the switch to the motor... Do you have voltage going from the harness into the switch?

Leroy Cook 11-22-2018 04:40 PM

Yes I am checking at the conector that plugs into the motor.. I can not get a test light to light. But if I check the conector when it is un pluged with a meter I get 9 Volts. It is as if the switch will not pass the voltage. And I do have 12 Volts on the yellow wire at the switch.

Leroy Cook 05-16-2019 07:22 PM

Drivers side electric window
 
My Drivers side electric window will not move yp or down. I have a new motor and switch. All othwer windows work. I here a clicking oming from the switch. There is no voltage going to the motor.

Is there a circut sowing the teminals on the switch?

Is there a 'lock out saftey I am overlooking?'

donbrew 05-16-2019 07:57 PM

Assuming you have a 2006: The lock out only applies to the rear windows.
Nothing between the switch and the motor but wires and the connectors in the conduit.

Leroy Cook 05-16-2019 07:58 PM

No it is a 2010 HHR!

donbrew 05-16-2019 09:16 PM

If it is only the driver window that the master switch does not control it must be wires.

On the master module brown and dark blue go to the motor, depends on position of switch which is + and -.
the yellow is the acc power (on the RetainedAccessoryPower relay). Also goes to the front passenger switch.
Dark Green is power from the windows fuse, it goes to each door switch.

RJ_RS_SS_350 05-16-2019 10:56 PM

These new posts have been moved to OP's original thread about this.

Maybe this time he will specify if the problem is with the front or the rear window.

I'm out.

donbrew 05-17-2019 07:50 AM

Post #14 #23 seems to say this is only the driver window.
The only way I can figure you are measuring 9 volts is if you are checking at the diode.
Any clicking is coming from the motor trying.

The yellow wire turns the power off after a couple of minutes of turning the key off. So it indicates nothing except the key must be on to check the voltages.
Yes there is a "circut sowing the teminals on the switch" on the first page of this thread. The numbers for the pins and the colors are noted.

Have you considered the regulator may be binding?

Leroy Cook 05-17-2019 08:21 PM

Driver side window 2010 HHR
 

Originally Posted by donbrew

Originally Posted by Leroy Cook
Maybwe the switch is not working as it should! I have two and they both arwe acting the same I have power to the small yellow wire. The dark green wire only has power when the switch is plugged in.I did run a jumper from the battery and The brown and blue are to ground. This was checked wqith a test light.
I am putting the door back together !
Maybe I have to bad switches?? The window motor will go up and down when 12 VDC is supplied to the connector .

The switch determines the polarity of Green and Brown. When the switch is in neutral they are both not connected.
The yellow wire is Retained Accessory Power, it turns the power off 2 minutes after the key is off.

See the diagram on page #1 of the thread.

I ran the window to the up position by suppling 12 VDC directly to the connector. It will also go down by Appling 12 VDC in in reverse. All of the widows work except the driver’s side.

There is no voltage coming out of the switch. I also checked the black wire to ground. And I can not find the wiring circurt!


donbrew 05-17-2019 09:04 PM

To reverse a DC motor you flip the polarity.

Here is the important part of the diagram again (if only the driver's window is the problem). The wire colors are noted and the terminal numbers are noted.

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Leroy Cook 05-21-2019 09:07 AM

Item 32 Where is it
 
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Oldblue 05-21-2019 10:05 AM

The other side of the pinky red connector

Leroy Cook 05-21-2019 04:10 PM

Please take another look
 
Item # 32 is notr there. Item 31 is but it is for the HVAC. In the photo this is in rthe upper right hand corner.

firemangeorge 05-21-2019 05:07 PM

READ Oldblues post above.
And NOTE 31 and 32 in the diagram show a "broken" line image which means they aren't visible from the outside.
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donbrew 05-21-2019 06:57 PM

Hint: dotted lines indicate not seen in this view.

DrLoch 05-22-2019 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by donbrew (Post 866494)
Hint: dotted lines indicate not seen in this view.

invisible.......

Oldblue 05-22-2019 01:27 PM

Claude Raines couldn’t see it!

Leroy Cook 05-25-2019 10:21 PM

I inastalled anoher window switch. Still the drivers window will not move. As I have said before I also installed a new motor. I can get he motor to move by appling voltaage directly to the plug. I have no voltage coming out of the switch! I do have voltage on the small wires going to the switch. (Small yellow & Green?)




Again I say I hear something that sounds like a relay when I move the switch in the down and up mode. And the fuses are good Item 17 is the one next to the radio and the fuse under the hood! I am at the end of the road on things to check Is there a fuse behind the RAP ? I will try to send a photo of the back side of the switch to show thew small wires!

Oldblue 05-26-2019 07:34 AM

Look in here

https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/prob...o-50978/page3/

it might help

donbrew 05-26-2019 08:36 AM

I looked at the BCM fuse label and found that fuse #17 is listed as "WNDW RAP". That would affect BOTH front windows.




If you hear something like a relay, that is the motor trying to turn. Something is binding it.


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