Drivers Side Leak...again
07-06-2011, 10:39 PM
#1
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Join Date: 06-24-2011
Location: Iowa
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Drivers Side Leak...again
Like some others on this forum have discussed, I also had a leaking problem on the drivers side of my wife’s 2008 SS. Just thought I would share where it was coming in at and how I fixed it.
After sucking a little over 2 gallons of water out of the front and rear drivers side carpeting I did some spray testing and found that water was coming in at 2 places, the first was as some others have found, coming in from behind the large triangular shaped body plug that is behind the drivers side kick panel, directly behind the hood release. If you remove the kick panel you can see a void inside of the door jamb with a pinch weld and some type of foam filler applied at the factory (see picture). If you look closely at the foam filler you can see it is wet and is holding water. Water was seeping down through the spot welded piece directly above (at the arrow) and collecting in this area. My guess is that the intent from the factory was for the water to remain on the outside of the channel, however if you encounter a heavy downpour it could fill up faster than it drains out causing it flow over the pinch weld and making it very easy to come into the interior.
My fix for this was, instead of trying to find every little spot where it was coming into the door jamb, to allow it to drain out as quickly as possible. I drilled 2 holes, one on each side of the pinch weld which will then allow any water that does leak into this area to drain into the rocker panel void and out the bottom of the car which it is supposed to anyway.
After applying some rust Preventative and spray on truck bedliner to the hole to prevent any future rusting of the bare metal, I re-installed the body plug using silicone. For good measure I also applied silicon to the round body in the same area.
Another place where it was leaking was from the pinch weld in the door jamb area that the door seal attaches to. Water would seep from between the two weld flanges, get under the seal and obviously run downward to the top of the rocker area and into the inside of the car where it would be able to drip right into the front floor pan. I fixed this simply by pushing silicone into the crevice between the flanges by hand.
After letting everything set up, did another water test, and no leaks. After two weeks and a couple good rains still no leaks.
Hope this will help anyone else with similar problems.
After sucking a little over 2 gallons of water out of the front and rear drivers side carpeting I did some spray testing and found that water was coming in at 2 places, the first was as some others have found, coming in from behind the large triangular shaped body plug that is behind the drivers side kick panel, directly behind the hood release. If you remove the kick panel you can see a void inside of the door jamb with a pinch weld and some type of foam filler applied at the factory (see picture). If you look closely at the foam filler you can see it is wet and is holding water. Water was seeping down through the spot welded piece directly above (at the arrow) and collecting in this area. My guess is that the intent from the factory was for the water to remain on the outside of the channel, however if you encounter a heavy downpour it could fill up faster than it drains out causing it flow over the pinch weld and making it very easy to come into the interior.
My fix for this was, instead of trying to find every little spot where it was coming into the door jamb, to allow it to drain out as quickly as possible. I drilled 2 holes, one on each side of the pinch weld which will then allow any water that does leak into this area to drain into the rocker panel void and out the bottom of the car which it is supposed to anyway.
After applying some rust Preventative and spray on truck bedliner to the hole to prevent any future rusting of the bare metal, I re-installed the body plug using silicone. For good measure I also applied silicon to the round body in the same area.
Another place where it was leaking was from the pinch weld in the door jamb area that the door seal attaches to. Water would seep from between the two weld flanges, get under the seal and obviously run downward to the top of the rocker area and into the inside of the car where it would be able to drip right into the front floor pan. I fixed this simply by pushing silicone into the crevice between the flanges by hand.
After letting everything set up, did another water test, and no leaks. After two weeks and a couple good rains still no leaks.
Hope this will help anyone else with similar problems.
10-24-2011, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: 10-04-2011
Location: St Peters Missouri
Posts: 4
Gator,
I just got my HHR 2008 SS a month ago, and am having the same issue. I am going to try this fix this weekend, I will let you know how it turns out, it looks like the exact same spots leaking in mine as well.
I just got my HHR 2008 SS a month ago, and am having the same issue. I am going to try this fix this weekend, I will let you know how it turns out, it looks like the exact same spots leaking in mine as well.
06-17-2013, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: 03-19-2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 296
I just did this fix, friday. But I drilled only 1 hole as water takes the path of least resistance. I hopefully sealed the triangular holed pretty solidly. I gunked it in the inside edge of the lip and once pasted i did a outside coat so it would help it stay in place. RTV gets tacky very quickly.
Samething with the door gasket seal, pushed rtv from the midde of the rail and foward. As the door gasket starts there. my water issue is right in that prime spot of the kick panel opening and curving up the door frame. Once i pushed some rtv through, i smoothed it by hank and pressed the gasket back on. So it create a nice seal and the door gasket will be once again tight.
Should rain this week, so looking fwd to results.
The only spot i did not touch was a rocker grommet in which I may go back and it it quick, we will see.
Samething with the door gasket seal, pushed rtv from the midde of the rail and foward. As the door gasket starts there. my water issue is right in that prime spot of the kick panel opening and curving up the door frame. Once i pushed some rtv through, i smoothed it by hank and pressed the gasket back on. So it create a nice seal and the door gasket will be once again tight.
Should rain this week, so looking fwd to results.
The only spot i did not touch was a rocker grommet in which I may go back and it it quick, we will see.
07-17-2015, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: 06-22-2014
Location: Tallinn, Estonia
Posts: 9
2 days heavily raining. find second time water in driver side . I find another way, where water goes down. showing in screwdriver: if heavily raining, then water goes up to the front roof frame and then goes after frame down . plastic pipe diameter too small in both side frame and water does not drain away quickly .
04-20-2016, 09:39 PM
#8
Join Date: 04-20-2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 2
HHR Leaks on Driver Side
HHR drivers side leaks like a sieve. Already cleared the drain under the cowl.
Gator . . .your solution looks like a probable but I can;t see the pictures to determine where to drill to drain the water before sealing up.
thanks MRM11
Gator . . .your solution looks like a probable but I can;t see the pictures to determine where to drill to drain the water before sealing up.
thanks MRM11
04-20-2016, 10:27 PM
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Join Date: 04-20-2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 2
Thanks everyone. It's my niece's new used car and she's a little put out about the leak.
It doesnt have a sun roof so at least that limits the possibilities.
I do have to replace the seal on the passenger side too as that is missing. While I'm there is guess I'll just silicone the harness and any gaps i see before I seal up the plugs and pinched joints etc. On the inside.
It doesnt have a sun roof so at least that limits the possibilities.
I do have to replace the seal on the passenger side too as that is missing. While I'm there is guess I'll just silicone the harness and any gaps i see before I seal up the plugs and pinched joints etc. On the inside.