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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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Chains don't have a MTBF that I know of.

Gasket is a rubber insert thing, should be reuseable.

Just the tensioner is a 1.7 hour flat rate job, including R&r the cover to release it.

Chain is a 5.7 hour flat rate.

It is easier to replace the water pump at the same time you change the Balance shaft chain. There are 2 chains.

No special tools required, if you know how to lock the camshafts the old fashioned way. You can get away without locking them. You will need an unexpected torx socket to pull the "fixed Timing Chain Guide Access Plug"

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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
It is easier to replace the water pump at the same time you change the Balance shaft chain. There are 2 chains.
Do folks typically replace the water pump and BOTH chains? Or is it sufficient to just do the camshaft chain and deal with the balance chain (and water pump) later if/when it ever becomes a problem?

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No special tools required, if you know how to lock the camshafts the old fashioned way.
What is the "old fashioned" way?

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You will need an unexpected torx socket to pull the "fixed Timing Chain Guide Access Plug"
I have a complete torx set from T10 to T60. Is this just a typical torx socket or some weird size?

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If you want a pdf about the job sent me a PM; I'll see what I can do.
Let me inspect the engine and go from there. I'll PM you after that if I'm diving into it.

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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 01:53 PM
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Do folks typically replace the water pump and BOTH chains? Or is it sufficient to just do the camshaft chain and deal with the balance chain (and water pump) later if/when it ever becomes a problem?
Water pump can be done, with a special tool, at a later time. Some do, some don't, not much extra labor.



What is the "old fashioned" way?
2 crescent wrenches and a vice grip.


I have a complete torx set from T10 to T60. Is this just a typical torx socket or some weird size?
Not a weird size, just unexpected.
Old Jun 27, 2017 | 02:41 PM
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My plug took a 10 mm Allen wrench
Old Jun 30, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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To do the timing chain, I know the cam sprockets need removed to make the repair and the cam bolts need replaced at that time. Does the crank bolt also need replaced or can it be reused?

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Old Jun 30, 2017 | 01:23 PM
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Should be, technically. However, none of them absolutely need it; if the don't have rust or visible damage AND they torque without binding. The last is the wild card.

So the answer is yes, unless you have a fully certified ASTM shop to test them.
Old Jun 30, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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The Cloyes kit came with cam bolts, and guide bolts, I had to get a new crank bolt,
Old Jul 1, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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I took the valve cover off today to inspect. See the attached short video of the chain slack. What do you think? I assume it should not have any slack whatsoever, correct?


I also peeked at the tensioner. Mine has the bump in the top. Pictures are attached. Is this the new style tensioner?


I peeked closely at the cam sprockets, chain, and the upper guide. They all looked to be in reasonable shape. I didn't see any excessive wear or broken/chipped pieces. Is it possible the tensioner may just need replaced? That is, is it possible it just froze and is no longer providing the needed tension? Or is replacing the tensioner without the chain and guides a bad idea?


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Old Jul 1, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Should be no visual slack, That is a lot! That is the new tensioner, as far as I can tell all VVT engines have them. They are hydraulic, the get to a point where they can't reach far enough.

A new tensioner comes with many kits.

After seeing the chain, I think we are past the "talking yourself out of it" stage.
Old Jul 1, 2017 | 02:31 PM
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