Ignition switch cylinder went ka-put!
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Whether or not a code self clears can depend on what the code is, for some codes like the one usually set by a loose gas cap, those will self clear in two or three cycles...I.E. two/three engine starts without the system detecting a problem...or an appropriate length of vehicle run time.
Other codes, like a hard misfire code can take up to 100 cycles to self clear, if at all. Things like misfire codes are set when a certain threshold has been reached, like X number of misfires in 200 firing events for that particular cylinder.
Other codes, like a hard misfire code can take up to 100 cycles to self clear, if at all. Things like misfire codes are set when a certain threshold has been reached, like X number of misfires in 200 firing events for that particular cylinder.
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Whether or not a code self clears can depend on what the code is, for some codes like the one usually set by a loose gas cap, those will self clear in two or three cycles...I.E. two/three engine starts without the system detecting a problem...or an appropriate length of vehicle run time.
Other codes, like a hard misfire code can take up to 100 cycles to self clear, if at all. Things like misfire codes are set when a certain threshold has been reached, like X number of misfires in 200 firing events for that particular cylinder.
Other codes, like a hard misfire code can take up to 100 cycles to self clear, if at all. Things like misfire codes are set when a certain threshold has been reached, like X number of misfires in 200 firing events for that particular cylinder.
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How they managed to trigger a code while changing out the lock cylinder in the ignition is beyond me, but I'd love to know which code has been set, it may or may not be related at all.
Before your boss clears the code/codes, record them and post them up here, because you just don't get codes thrown while fixing that problem.
That being said, having Ford techs work on a Chevy is kind of like having a heart doctor do brain surgery, not recommended.
Before your boss clears the code/codes, record them and post them up here, because you just don't get codes thrown while fixing that problem.
That being said, having Ford techs work on a Chevy is kind of like having a heart doctor do brain surgery, not recommended.
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If you have an "extended warranty" you probably can go to ANY mechanic that you want to. If it is still under GM, but bought from a Ford dealer you can still go to Chevy dealer for repairs.
I am thinking that they did not do the official "new key" re learn, hopefully you still have an old key available for that.
I am thinking that they did not do the official "new key" re learn, hopefully you still have an old key available for that.
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From: Ohio
How they managed to trigger a code while changing out the lock cylinder in the ignition is beyond me, but I'd love to know which code has been set, it may or may not be related at all.
Before your boss clears the code/codes, record them and post them up here, because you just don't get codes thrown while fixing that problem.
That being said, having Ford techs work on a Chevy is kind of like having a heart doctor do brain surgery, not recommended.
Before your boss clears the code/codes, record them and post them up here, because you just don't get codes thrown while fixing that problem.
That being said, having Ford techs work on a Chevy is kind of like having a heart doctor do brain surgery, not recommended.
I am just happy it turns off now, the key comes out of lock cylinder and the light is out.
As for having Ford work on a Chevy. When I rescued it from captivity at Ford the Chevy warranty was almost up so the extended warranty was purchased through them.
They were prompt with the repair. Gave me a loaner car and kept me informed as to the progress. Can't really complain.
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From: SE USA
Nothing mentioned about warranty, just fix it..
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SUBJECT: Ignition Lock Cylinder May Bind - Replace Ignition Lock Cylinder
MODELS:
2009 Chevrolet Cobalt
2009-2010 Chevrolet HHR
2009 Pontiac G5
THIS PROGRAM IS IN EFFECT UNTIL MAY 31, 2014.
CONDITION
Certain 2009 model year Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 vehicles, and 2009-2010 model year Chevrolet HHR vehicles may develop a binding condition between the ignition lock cylinder and the housing. If this occurs, it may be difficult to turn the ignition key and/or remove it from the ignition. If the vehicle is running, the driver may not be able to turn the vehicle off.
CORRECTION
Dealers are to replace the ignition lock cylinder.
VEHICLES INVOLVED
All involved vehicles are identified by Vehicle Identification Number on the Investigate Vehicle History screen in GM Global Warranty Management system. Dealership service personnel should always check this site to confirm vehicle involvement prior to beginning any required inspections and/or repairs.
PART INFORMATION
Parts required to complete this program are to be obtained from General Motors Customer Care and Aftersales (GMCC&A). Please refer to your “involved vehicles listing” before ordering parts.
CUSTOMER REIMBURSEMENT - For U.S.
Customer requests for reimbursement of previously paid repairs for the recall condition are to be submitted to the dealer by May 31, 2013, unless otherwise specified by state law. If this is not convenient for the customer, they may mail the completed Customer Reimbursement Request Form and all required documents to the GM Customer Assistance Center. All reasonable and customary costs to correct the condition described in this bulletin
should be considered for reimbursement. Any questions or concerns should be
reviewed with your District Service Manager – Aftersales prior to processing the request. When a customer requests reimbursement, they must provide the following:
A completed Customer Reimbursement Request Form. This form is mailed to the customer or can be obtained through GM GlobalConnect.
The name and address of the person who paid for the repair.
Paid receipt confirming the amount of the repair expense, a description of the repair, and the person or entity performing the repair.
CUSTOMER REIMBURSEMENT - For Canada and Export
Customer requests for reimbursement of previously paid repairs to correct the condition described in this bulletin are to be submitted to the dealer prior to or by May 31, 2013.
When a customer requests reimbursement, they must provide the following:
- Proof of ownership at time of repair.
- Original paid receipt confirming the amount of unreimbursed repair expense(s) (including Service Contract deductibles), a description of the repair, and the person or entity performing the repair.
If the work was done by someone other than a GM dealership, the amount of reimbursement will be limited to the amount that the repair would have cost GM to have it completed by a GM dealership.
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SUBJECT: Ignition Lock Cylinder May Bind - Replace Ignition Lock Cylinder
MODELS:
2009 Chevrolet Cobalt
2009-2010 Chevrolet HHR
2009 Pontiac G5
THIS PROGRAM IS IN EFFECT UNTIL MAY 31, 2014.
CONDITION
Certain 2009 model year Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 vehicles, and 2009-2010 model year Chevrolet HHR vehicles may develop a binding condition between the ignition lock cylinder and the housing. If this occurs, it may be difficult to turn the ignition key and/or remove it from the ignition. If the vehicle is running, the driver may not be able to turn the vehicle off.
CORRECTION
Dealers are to replace the ignition lock cylinder.
VEHICLES INVOLVED
All involved vehicles are identified by Vehicle Identification Number on the Investigate Vehicle History screen in GM Global Warranty Management system. Dealership service personnel should always check this site to confirm vehicle involvement prior to beginning any required inspections and/or repairs.
PART INFORMATION
Parts required to complete this program are to be obtained from General Motors Customer Care and Aftersales (GMCC&A). Please refer to your “involved vehicles listing” before ordering parts.
CUSTOMER REIMBURSEMENT - For U.S.
Customer requests for reimbursement of previously paid repairs for the recall condition are to be submitted to the dealer by May 31, 2013, unless otherwise specified by state law. If this is not convenient for the customer, they may mail the completed Customer Reimbursement Request Form and all required documents to the GM Customer Assistance Center. All reasonable and customary costs to correct the condition described in this bulletin
should be considered for reimbursement. Any questions or concerns should be
reviewed with your District Service Manager – Aftersales prior to processing the request. When a customer requests reimbursement, they must provide the following:
A completed Customer Reimbursement Request Form. This form is mailed to the customer or can be obtained through GM GlobalConnect.
The name and address of the person who paid for the repair.
Paid receipt confirming the amount of the repair expense, a description of the repair, and the person or entity performing the repair.
CUSTOMER REIMBURSEMENT - For Canada and Export
Customer requests for reimbursement of previously paid repairs to correct the condition described in this bulletin are to be submitted to the dealer prior to or by May 31, 2013.
When a customer requests reimbursement, they must provide the following:
- Proof of ownership at time of repair.
- Original paid receipt confirming the amount of unreimbursed repair expense(s) (including Service Contract deductibles), a description of the repair, and the person or entity performing the repair.
If the work was done by someone other than a GM dealership, the amount of reimbursement will be limited to the amount that the repair would have cost GM to have it completed by a GM dealership.
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Posts: 16,081
From: SE USA
07 & 08 HHRs' have a 10 year window for FREE fix
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Special Coverage
MODELS: 2007-2008 Chevrolet Cobalt
2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR
2007-2008 Pontiac G5
CONDITION
On some 2007-2008 model year Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5, and 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR vehicles may develop a binding condition between the ignition lock cylinder and the housing. If this occurs, it may be difficult to turn the ignition key and/or remove it from the ignition. If the vehicle is running, the driver may not be able to turn the vehicle off.
SPECIAL COVERAGE ADJUSTMENT
This special coverage covers the condition described above for a period of 10 years or 120,000 miles (193,000 km), whichever occurs first, from the date the vehicle was originally placed in service, regardless of ownership. Dealers are to replace the ignition lock cylinder.
The repairs will be made at no charge to the customer.
For vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or after April 19, 2012 are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to April 19, 2012 must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.
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Special Coverage
MODELS: 2007-2008 Chevrolet Cobalt
2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR
2007-2008 Pontiac G5
CONDITION
On some 2007-2008 model year Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5, and 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR vehicles may develop a binding condition between the ignition lock cylinder and the housing. If this occurs, it may be difficult to turn the ignition key and/or remove it from the ignition. If the vehicle is running, the driver may not be able to turn the vehicle off.
SPECIAL COVERAGE ADJUSTMENT
This special coverage covers the condition described above for a period of 10 years or 120,000 miles (193,000 km), whichever occurs first, from the date the vehicle was originally placed in service, regardless of ownership. Dealers are to replace the ignition lock cylinder.
The repairs will be made at no charge to the customer.
For vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or after April 19, 2012 are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to April 19, 2012 must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.
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From: Shreveport, LA
Not 2007
These are two different programs with overlapping HHR model years to which they apply. NEITHER applies to 2007!
READ CLOSELY - 2007 models covered are COBALT and G5, NOT HHR! This is not a typographical error as it is specified in two different places.
I hope this means that HHR had a different supplier in 2007 and consequently no coverage is needed because our parts don't fail at excessive rates for that model year.
READ CLOSELY - 2007 models covered are COBALT and G5, NOT HHR! This is not a typographical error as it is specified in two different places.
I hope this means that HHR had a different supplier in 2007 and consequently no coverage is needed because our parts don't fail at excessive rates for that model year.
Last edited by Doctuh; Apr 30, 2012 at 01:14 PM.
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From: SE USA
AceMan- This was just recently posted here in the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) thread..
IDK Doctuh, this is what ChevyMgr posted.. & it lists the 2007 & 08 being covered for 10 years,
for FREE replacement.
for FREE replacement.