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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 07:09 AM
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I’m still thinking load test the battery.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 07:15 AM
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Well I will post here too ( IF you used the search tool you would probably see the same comment and suggestions) but I had the same thing and the end result was a failing ten year old battery. Presented itself as a fuel or starter related issue. Sometimes it was slow to start, sometimes it wouldn't start on the first turn of the key. Forums are here for discussion, but it gets boring having the same conversation over and over and over and posting the same answers and suggestions because people want to join the forum, make a one time post about whatever issue they have instead of looking through countless other threads for the same issue and the same suggestions, only to disappear and never even come back to tell us what the solution was! (was that snarky enough?)
Anyway, even if your battery passes the test it could still be failing. Check the date. If its over five years old, or its one of those cheap off brand ones, swap it out.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aradmahogany
Well I will post here too ( IF you used the search tool you would probably see the same comment and suggestions) but I had the same thing and the end result was a failing ten year old battery. Presented itself as a fuel or starter related issue. Sometimes it was slow to start, sometimes it wouldn't start on the first turn of the key. Forums are here for discussion, but it gets boring having the same conversation over and over and over and posting the same answers and suggestions because people want to join the forum, make a one time post about whatever issue they have instead of looking through countless other threads for the same issue and the same suggestions, only to disappear and never even come back to tell us what the solution was! (was that snarky enough?)
Anyway, even if your battery passes the test it could still be failing. Check the date. If its over five years old, or its one of those cheap off brand ones, swap it out.
Oh. Like his 1st thread about axle issues that he never came back to. One reason why I didn't jump into this thread and try to help out.
Forum discussions should go back and forth. Questions, answers and suggestions. OP's not returning may not be snarky, but it is rude and very inconsiderate.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 07:34 AM
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Y’all mean this thread , never updated?

https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/brak...-issues-59481/

This is what they are typing about, all Phil Collins, no reply at all!
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 09:13 AM
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Oh. Like his 1st thread about axle issues that he never came back to. One reason why I didn't jump into this thread and try to help out.
Forum discussions should go back and forth. Questions, answers and suggestions. OP's not returning may not be snarky, but it is rude and very inconsiderate.
it was a broken spring on one side making the car unstable. Which is one of the reasons I came to this forum the dealership the car was taken to was full of crap. No bad axle bushings and no bent axle.

Originally Posted by aradmahogany
Well I will post here too ( IF you used the search tool you would probably see the same comment and suggestions) but I had the same thing and the end result was a failing ten year old battery. Presented itself as a fuel or starter related issue. Sometimes it was slow to start, sometimes it wouldn't start on the first turn of the key. Forums are here for discussion, but it gets boring having the same conversation over and over and over and posting the same answers and suggestions because people want to join the forum, make a one time post about whatever issue they have instead of looking through countless other threads for the same issue and the same suggestions, only to disappear and never even come back to tell us what the solution was! (was that snarky enough?)
Anyway, even if your battery passes the test it could still be failing. Check the date. If its over five years old, or its one of those cheap off brand ones, swap it out.
There was plenty of threads about the issues I'm having but there's also a reply about the cam solenoids causing a no start issue.

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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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The cam solenoid would set a CEL code for the cam it applies to intake or exhaust.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ_RS_SS_350
And don't forget to remove the negative battery cable in the rear of the car before attempting to remove the starter.

Please understand that the "snarky" comments are often born from the frustration of actually answering the same question, maybe 100's of times. And many, many of those answers got zero response from the OP. You've probably seen some of these threads in your search. No "thanks", no "hey (insert user name) you were right, it was the(insert part name)".

Which, in turn, makes your search efforts more difficult. So, thanks for trying to search. FYI, the more recent threads will give more accurate information. Simply put, we know more about the HHR now, than we did when it was new.
I'm a member of a camaro forum and I know what you're saying about the same question over and over. Appreciate the outlook for sure. In my opinion if someone doesn't know to disconnect the battery before starter service they probably should take there car to someone.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
The cam solenoid would set a CEL code for the cam it applies to intake or exhaust.
but would it just not start randomly slow crank out of the blue once a day or so? This is what I meant by conversations about things. There's tons of information on this site but a lot is just answers to people's question and not what led to that person suspecting a certain part.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 09:42 AM
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Well, this does not seem to be going anywhere at this point.

Yup, go ahead and replace the solenoids to "fix" the random slow crank issue if it will make you feel better.

Once you realize that the solenoids have no relation to the issue, then go ahead and follow the rest of the suggestions already offered.

I don't think we can offer any more suggestions at this point.
Old Nov 16, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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Well, this does not seem to be going anywhere at this point.

Yup, go ahead and replace the solenoids to "fix" the random slow crank issue if it will make you feel better.

Once you realize that the solenoids have no relation to the issue, then go ahead and follow the rest of the suggestions already offered.

I don't think we can offer any more suggestions at this point.
Sounds reasonable enough. Just thought maybe someone here could tell me why a cam solenoid would keep a car from cranking over but apparently nobody has a clue. But maybe the post I read wasn't correct. I know 4 stroke dirt bikes and such have decompression levers (they open a valve)or do it automatically to make starting easier and maybe that's the function of the cam solenoids. I'm guessing the lack of response on them means nobody knows why they would cause starting issues.



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