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Old 05-22-2019, 02:04 PM
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Knocking noise

Hi guys, I'm new here. I have a 2007 HHR with a 2.2 engine manual transmission 170k miles. I have a moderate knocking noise starting at around 2000 RPM. In my experience, early stage rod knocks are more audible when the excellerator is released abruptly. Any ideas?
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:28 PM
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Welcome to the site, it could be a couple of thinks the upper engine mount can be worn out.
Loose timing chain or tensioner
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Originally Posted by Bigscooter
early stage rod knocks are more audible when the excellerator is released abruptly. Any ideas?
Piston wrist pins do that.
A bearing knock is when you accelerate.
Hope that helps.
I wish these cars had an oil pressure gauge from the factory.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:23 PM
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Amen, and a volt meter!
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Welcome & I agree w/Cat Man, rod knock is most audible when accelerating like under load.

Agree on oil & volt gauges would have been nice factory equipment.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:10 AM
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Well dang, I sure hope it's not a rod knock. Is that common on the 2.2 engine?
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No,

and I see no reason for either gauge.

I have driven cars with no oil but normal oil pressure, and what does oil pressure have to do with rod knock?. I've never seen a voltmeter factory installed, ammeters are useless with alternators.

As bad as a code readout on the dash; too much information is bad.
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Originally Posted by donbrew
No,

and I see no reason for either gauge.
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Sorry Don your not a mechanic. Don't take offence to my statement.
"what does oil pressure have to do with rod knock?"
Let's see, no pressure bearing go dry, knock.
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They knock because they wore out, maybe because there was no oil; not because there was no pressure. The oil disappeared a week before, and as stated I have driven cars that showed normal pressure with nothing in the pan.

Oil pressure in modern cars doesn't tell you anything except that the pump is still functioning.

I would rather have an oil level gauge.
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Originally Posted by donbrew
They knock because they wore out, maybe because there was no oil; not because there was no pressure. The oil disappeared a week before, and as stated I have driven cars that showed normal pressure with nothing in the pan.
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If there is no oil pressure, the oil does not get pumped thru the crank to feed the rods & mains, plus the top end.
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