New Tire Presure Monitors?
03-07-2014, 12:50 PM
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New Tire Presure Monitors?
I have had my 2009 HHR for 5 years now and 27,000 miles.Going to get new tires soon and was wondering if I should replace the tire pressure monitors at this time while the tires are being replaced.Got a feeling that sometime soon after tire replacement it will be time for new tire monitors.So maybe just replace them now to be safe instead of having to unmount the tires again to replace the monitors eventually.Obviously if I knew they would last another 5 years I would not bother.My last cars monitors only lasted 4 years.How long should I expect them to last until the batteries in them die?How long have yours lasted?Thanks!
03-08-2014, 04:58 PM
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I get great service and pricing from America's Tire, but they push a TMPS re-build kit when they install new tires. I'm sure they put new batteries in at that time, as well as other parts(?) This may just be a way to up charge, but it's only something like $9.00 a wheel, and seems to offer me some peace of mind -- not that my tires are keeping me awake at night anyway.
03-08-2014, 06:12 PM
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I get great service and pricing from America's Tire, but they push a TMPS re-build kit when they install new tires. I'm sure they put new batteries in at that time, as well as other parts(?) This may just be a way to up charge, but it's only something like $9.00 a wheel, and seems to offer me some peace of mind -- not that my tires are keeping me awake at night anyway.
The "B---S----" kit is a new valve stem (PERIOD). I refuse to pay for them. The local Firestone place tried to tell me that Company Policy is to not let a tire go out the door without it, but the could not tell me what they might be doing to break the old one if it came in good.
The modern valve stem has a brass center and modern rubber, so they DO NOT fail like the stems of yore. The tire busters have a slightly easier job just breaking the stem instead of removing the core, so as far as I can tell they should give me a labor credit not charge for it.
03-09-2014, 03:29 PM
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I get great service and pricing from America's Tire, but they push a TMPS re-build kit when they install new tires. I'm sure they put new batteries in at that time, as well as other parts(?) This may just be a way to up charge, but it's only something like $9.00 a wheel, and seems to offer me some peace of mind -- not that my tires are keeping me awake at night anyway.
All valve stems are rubber and have brass center. All rubber will deteriorate with time, modern or not, that is why a tire should be taken out of service after so much time. UV, rubber and time are not friends. I have seen many tires and stems fail because of age. When a stem fails, it will most likely fail at highway speeds. (That is when a tire run the hottest) The result is a destroyed tire.
Tire busters do not have an easier time at all. Ask any one who works in the industry what one they would rather do. With a TPMS, extra care must be taken, as not to break it. Special procedures must be taken, if a tire buster breaks your TPMS who do you think pays for it?
You may or may not agree with the procedure, but that's the reason. Just sayin
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03-11-2014, 02:32 PM
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When I was a tire buster in the 70's, I would take the peeler and whack the stem. That was much easier and faster than removing the core.
The old stems did not have a full length brass center, only the top where the core screws in. Those old stems could be "demonstrated" to be bad after 10,000 miles or so by bending them and showing the cracks. I used to make $1 commission for each (not proud).
The stems on my 2000 Mazda Protege are OE with no sign of cracking. 2 of the tires had to be replaced because they flunked inspection because of cracking sidewalls.
Serious question: What can the tire buster do to break my TPM? He can just pull the core to let the air out, the peeler does not get anywhere close to it. If it comes in working why would it need servicing? I do know for sure the core is identical to cores from 15 years ago, The cap has an O-ring in it (use the old one), The cap is a mm longer to cover all of the brass (use the old one).
My local Wal-Mart will not even try to sell valve stems to cars with TPMS, they just mount them up.
The old stems did not have a full length brass center, only the top where the core screws in. Those old stems could be "demonstrated" to be bad after 10,000 miles or so by bending them and showing the cracks. I used to make $1 commission for each (not proud).
The stems on my 2000 Mazda Protege are OE with no sign of cracking. 2 of the tires had to be replaced because they flunked inspection because of cracking sidewalls.
Serious question: What can the tire buster do to break my TPM? He can just pull the core to let the air out, the peeler does not get anywhere close to it. If it comes in working why would it need servicing? I do know for sure the core is identical to cores from 15 years ago, The cap has an O-ring in it (use the old one), The cap is a mm longer to cover all of the brass (use the old one).
My local Wal-Mart will not even try to sell valve stems to cars with TPMS, they just mount them up.
03-11-2014, 07:52 PM
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When I was a tire buster in the 70's, I would take the peeler and whack the stem. That was much easier and faster than removing the core.
The old stems did not have a full length brass center, only the top where the core screws in. Those old stems could be "demonstrated" to be bad after 10,000 miles or so by bending them and showing the cracks. I used to make $1 commission for each (not proud).
The stems on my 2000 Mazda Protege are OE with no sign of cracking. 2 of the tires had to be replaced because they flunked inspection because of cracking sidewalls.
Serious question: What can the tire buster do to break my TPM? He can just pull the core to let the air out, the peeler does not get anywhere close to it. If it comes in working why would it need servicing? I do know for sure the core is identical to cores from 15 years ago, The cap has an O-ring in it (use the old one), The cap is a mm longer to cover all of the brass (use the old one).
My local Wal-Mart will not even try to sell valve stems to cars with TPMS, they just mount them up.
The old stems did not have a full length brass center, only the top where the core screws in. Those old stems could be "demonstrated" to be bad after 10,000 miles or so by bending them and showing the cracks. I used to make $1 commission for each (not proud).
The stems on my 2000 Mazda Protege are OE with no sign of cracking. 2 of the tires had to be replaced because they flunked inspection because of cracking sidewalls.
Serious question: What can the tire buster do to break my TPM? He can just pull the core to let the air out, the peeler does not get anywhere close to it. If it comes in working why would it need servicing? I do know for sure the core is identical to cores from 15 years ago, The cap has an O-ring in it (use the old one), The cap is a mm longer to cover all of the brass (use the old one).
My local Wal-Mart will not even try to sell valve stems to cars with TPMS, they just mount them up.