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Old 03-18-2022, 07:19 AM
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Checked the elbow at the throttle body, and there's definitely oil getting sucked up into the throttle body. I can see it is going into the throttle body from the PCV hose. I know there is sometimes a little bit of oil in there, but what is considered too much? Any ideas what it could be?
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:55 AM
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Absolutely DO NOT use long life or high mileage oil, they contain heavy metals that will destroy the cat.
None is "normal". That much indicates a blow by problem with the rings.
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Alright, I will do a leak-down test sometime within the next weeks. I have not used any long life or high mileage oil, just use valvoline 5w-30 advanced synthetic.
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:29 AM
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Check the label on the Valvoline it might contain additives like zinc, I don't know "advanced" might mean "high mileage".
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Nothing in the Valvoline website, just says for DI engines, no mention of Dexos
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It says Dexos gen 2 approved on the bottle.

It says here that it has 940 ppm of zinc
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Old 03-19-2022, 06:58 PM
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Did a compression test today and everything seemed okay.

The psi I got for each cylinder was:
1 - 125
2 - 135
3 - 135
4 - 130

Since the last time I did a compression test a year ago, cylinders 1 and 4 dropped 5 psi and cylinders 2 and 3 dropped 10 psi. They all went to 120 psi right away and then added just a little bit more pressure when cranking.

All the spark plugs looked just like this:



There's no smoke coming from my exhaust, and the top of the oil fill cap doesn't have any sludge on it anymore.
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Old 03-20-2022, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tr34
It says Dexos gen 2 approved on the bottle.

It says here that it has 940 ppm of zinc
That’s a lot of Zinc, almost 0.1%. By weight or by volume? Something on the order of an ounce, in any event.

Zinc is not a heavy metal. It’s a rather light one, really. But it can still screw up a cat, just takes awhile, apparently, not immediately poisoning it like heavy metals can.

According to this, EPA doesn’t like a lot of zinc in oil, and there are substitutes.

https://rislone.com/blog/engine-oil/...older-engines/
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Originally Posted by PulpFriction
That’s a lot of Zinc, almost 0.1%. By weight or by volume? Something on the order of an ounce, in any event.

Zinc is not a heavy metal. It’s a rather light one, really. But it can still screw up a cat, just takes awhile, apparently, not immediately poisoning it like heavy metals can.

According to this, EPA doesn’t like a lot of zinc in oil, and there are substitutes.

https://rislone.com/blog/engine-oil/...older-engines/

That's interesting about zinc. Are there certain oils that contain no zinc or phosphorus in them then? I tried looking at mobil1 and they have 800ppm of zinc and 900ppm of phosphorus in their oil. I tried seeing what was in the ACDelco Dexos gen 2 oil, although I couldn't find anything about it.

I still have the original catalytic converter on my HHR, and it seems to be working alright. I don't think it has ever been tested for emissions though.

Gonna drive the HHR for another week and see what happens to the oil. I've been gaining a few mpg over the past few weeks, so maybe just driving is helping the issue.
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That looks like sludge on the plug. Is that just an illusion?

This qualifies zinc as a heavy metal.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...%20(32%2C%2045).

According to this: https://www.ratwell.com/technical/OilsWithZinc.html 1400 ppm is in the "normal" range of zinc, meaning 700ppm is low. What I was warning against is the very high content oils like diesel oils and "High Performance" and "classic Car" etc. But, burning oil is always bad for the cat.

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