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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 06:52 PM
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Quick Question about timing chain slop

Hello all I am trying to track down the reason for my sons HHR running rough. Only code is P0300. I pulled the valve cover because I wanted to check the timing chain. Top of chain between sprockets is pretty tight, maybe an 1/8 of play. The long stretch of chain towards front of car has quite a bit of slop, at least 1/2" or more. I know that side is opposite the tensioner so it would be the side with the most play but that seems excessive? What are your thoughts? Thanks!
Old Feb 26, 2025 | 09:16 PM
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ANY play is too much.
Old Feb 27, 2025 | 05:15 AM
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Thats what I was afraid of...guess Im going to be putting in a timing chain
Old Feb 27, 2025 | 07:06 AM
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Fairly easy job, don’t go cheap!
Old Feb 27, 2025 | 03:36 PM
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Was planning on going with a cloyes or melling kit unless you guys have a better suggestion. Probably go ahead and do the water pump too. How important is it to change the sprockets? Cant imagine they would wear much.
Thanks for the advice!
Old Feb 28, 2025 | 06:45 AM
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You don’t need to change sprockets , a Cloyes 9-4201SX timing chainkit and a 9-4202SX balance shaft chain kit will work
you might want to order a GM front cover gasket and crankshaft seal, I’ve had FelPro products that leaked. As for the water pump, it’s a coin toss, I’ve replace the OEM pump and has failure after 3 of 4 months, if the OEM isn’t leaking leave it !

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Old Feb 28, 2025 | 08:20 AM
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Bet yer front guide is toast. Get the ZZP upgraded one anyway. Much stronger.


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Old Feb 28, 2025 | 08:33 AM
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And a replacement bolt for the front guide upper fastener

https://zzperformance.com/products/e...ain-guide-bolt
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