Ok no one is beating up on Mike ;
Written by Snoopy :
Now, if you think this is a mouse turd, wait until I make my next comment, in the appropriate thread, on another subject that the false god had stated


NFBoy Wrote :
The point being made is that loose or not they are not a problem. They may be loose by design. Not everything has to be bar tight to be correctly installed. The design of the fuse cover prevents the fuses from coming loose enough to be a problem.
I wrote:
Now I don't have any paper "Documenting" this , because I check things myself instead of relying on the dealer,( who sometimes knows less that you!) but twice I had shifting troubles,and after pushin in on all the fuses, and finding several loose , the problem disappeared. I'm sorry I never have paid attention to which ones were loose at those times, but the problem stopped after pushin them in . As far as some peoples fuses not comming loose, well, you have a better fit than some others , so be glad. Those that keep finding them loose , just check thaem as a matter of maintance, and anytime something strange happens.
Just my opinion, but it works for me!

Now in my case I know that I had a Shifting problem, the shifting is controlled electronically, and after reseating the fuses , the problem went away , BUT reoccoured, again being cured by reseating the fuses .
gee I guess maybe a fuse being loose CAN cause an issue in an important electrical function.

Once again , only my own opinion, and I guess I'm not worth reading because I state what I know ,simply as that, and not try to change anyones minds about what is and isnt important. Its all important, we buy these cars and we belive they should function properly.
I agree this is a "Minor" inconvieniance, BUT an inconvieniance it is.
If you experience an unusual "Electrically Controlled" malfunction, spend the little bit of time nessary to check the fuded, it may keep your blood pressure from escalating while visiting the dealer!
Have a nice day! Make somebody smile, its contagious!

 

But then how would you explain cases like mine (and I'm sure most owners) where I haven't touched the fuses in two years of ownership and haven't had one electrical problem? So far there is no actual documented proof that loose fuses have caused any issues amongst owners. It's all hype and fear. There is no real reason this thread should even be a sticky. Unless you consider worrying new owners of problems that don't exist or scaring away new buyers a good reason. This thread should die in the old thread graveyard!

 

Schmodie.....

I'm not doubting or calling you a liar in the results you posted regarding the fuse issue. I want to make that clear . But your results, could have been a coincidence. I'm not sure about this, and I will check, BUT I believe there is only one fuse related to the transmission in the underhood fuse box. And that fuse, if removed would prevent the trans from working entirely.....not just shifting.

Besides again, the "spades" of the electrical contact area are STILL MAKING CONTACT with the box. SO..........

If your argument is that a loose fuse is causing the trans problem, then I would intentionally loosen the fuse as a trial, in an attempt to duplicate your problem. If you confirm this, then I suggest a stop at the dealer to display this result. YOU DO HAVE A FAULTY PROBLEM.

 

Dear Captain Howdy,
This is the second occasion I have had the pleasure of pointing out to you that you need to" Read the Whole post Please".

I qoute myself, "As far as some peoples fuses not comming loose, well, you have a better fit than some others , so be glad. Those that keep finding them loose , just check thaem as a matter of maintance, and anytime something strange happens."

Sorry I didnt mention you by name at first , to avoid this confusion.
So there you have it some stay tight, some come loose. Its really not quite enough to start a civil war over, BUT , istead of Institing that if it doesnt have a "Paper Trail" it doest exsit, just be happy yours dont come loose .
And if it makes you feel any better I'll tell you that I am Extremlly Jealous of you ,because mine DO!
Make an old ladys day, help her across the street!

 

....... so push 'em in and keep on truckin'!

 

Well, I suppose I could do that -- BUT , I relly dont need to have to be bit by a dog to know that it hurts !
My son ( Whom I do know quite well,& trust a bit ) has been an eledctrician for several years & he & I also have a lot of mechanical experiance, And believe it or not -- an eletrical connection Can , even when plugged in tightly, sometimes not pass enough current.
I know , why should you belive me, I dont have a TV show, I dont have any Paper Documentation of my trials, & expeiance and mechanical abillity! ANd I'm really NOT gonna lose any sleep over weather you do or not, My whole point in this thing is this -- IT Can happen -- even if it just hasn't to YOU!
BUT the same goes here , What is YOUR prooF ?

Remember
" Things can only get better. Don't you know a drowning man can't get no wetter." -- The Late Great James DeWar

 

I don't see why you are taking it so personal but I would say the fact that only a few members on a website worry about it out of the 1000s of HHRs sold. The fact that GMs engineers designed the fuse lid so that they can't come out. The fact that a single fuse hasn't vibrated out of any HHR yet in its two years on the road (not just on mine). The fact that GM has hasn't recalled all of our vehicles because of a faulty fuse box nor have they released any TSBs acknowledging it as a problem. It's all a bunch of hot air IMO. You might have noticed your problem is corrected when you pushed your fuse but that doesn't actually make it a worry or concern for the rest of us. I'm not calling you a liar because I do feel that you actually believe that your problem was fixed by moving a fuse like 1/8" in deeper in the socket but that doesn't actually make it a problem nor does it acknowledge that it is an actual widespread problem with the vehicle. I've felt this way long before you joined the site (like when this crap was first posted) so stop taking and making things so personal.

 

Schmodie......

I'm with CH on this. Why are you taking it SO PERSONAL??? I'm not doubting you experienced what you said. I am questioning the logic.....and that's not a slam.

Are you asking me for my proof...for my statements???????

Try what I suggested, and BY ALL MEANS, check the design of the fuse box...as per my suggestions. That should be proof enough. In approximately 3-4 threads and hundreds of posts, in those threads, NOBODY cared to check to see if loose fuses are an issue of concern. Everyone (including me) just assumed the fuses were an issue......again THEY ARE NOT (unless you, as an individual, do have an isolated and specific problem.....and that is worth noting).

I'm not trying to be sarcastic BUT, yes you are correct...even when something is plugged in correctly it may not pass electrical current. BUT, THAT IS DUE TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MECHANICAL FAULT. Also, even if this sounds a bit sarcastic, it's not intended as such.........where is your proof you actually experienced what you said you experienced? Do you see the intent of my "echo". This forum, as well as others, has had people claim certain types of problems/issues, only to find out, later, they were trolling. Now, I'm not accusing you of that, so don't misunderstand. I used it as an example only.

When someone posts with a problem, members generally jump in with suggestions. But if some suggestions are erroneous, then other members step in with corrections....I was one of them.

This issue is becoming as contraveral as when to change oil, or what kind of oil AND it was not my intent to cause this dissention.

I'm just trying to help....do what YOU think is necessary and keep us informed.

 

One time I had really bad heartburn, so I scratched my leg and it went away. Now whenever I get really bad heartburn, I scratch my leg...

Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid people. It'll all be over soon!