HHR SS airbags went off, no accident, no rollover
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Joined: 11-20-2006
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From: Peoria, IL
Supposedly, they have seen 3 issues like this recently. Mine being the 3rd.
On the first 2, he stated that the decision makers determined that the airbags were not covered as they were the cause of the damage. Not sure how that works.
It is not final yet, he said there is still a chance that they will cover.
On the first 2, he stated that the decision makers determined that the airbags were not covered as they were the cause of the damage. Not sure how that works.
It is not final yet, he said there is still a chance that they will cover.
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Joined: 05-13-2008
Posts: 2,075
From: Knoxville, TN
Supposedly, they have seen 3 issues like this recently. Mine being the 3rd.
On the first 2, he stated that the decision makers determined that the airbags were not covered as they were the cause of the damage. Not sure how that works.
It is not final yet, he said there is still a chance that they will cover.
On the first 2, he stated that the decision makers determined that the airbags were not covered as they were the cause of the damage. Not sure how that works.
It is not final yet, he said there is still a chance that they will cover.
If it's my gut and all three cars are from your area, and by chance ar HHR's then I would be yelling about a bad baatch of sensors comming off the line, loaded on a car carier and sold in your area.
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Joined: 07-05-2008
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From: Akron Ohio
This has happened 3 times in your area? or three times to your insurance? all HHR's?
If it's my gut and all three cars are from your area, and by chance ar HHR's then I would be yelling about a bad baatch of sensors comming off the line, loaded on a car carier and sold in your area.
If it's my gut and all three cars are from your area, and by chance ar HHR's then I would be yelling about a bad baatch of sensors comming off the line, loaded on a car carier and sold in your area.
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Joined: 05-09-2006
Posts: 6,805
From: "Upland" Mesa, Arizona
If this is the case(SF blaming GM), you really ought to at least talk to a lawyer... Both insurance and GM are now screwing you over. I know it's been said over and over, but especially now that you have tried all the "normal" channels and are still coming up empty, it's time to try something else.
What I am getting at is.....this situation is beyond your capabilities, unfortunately. I would suck up and pay or apply pressure to your insurance company to pay. The legal route in this endeavor is expensive and more than the replacement of the airbags.....probably.
GM, to some point, doesn't care about the cost of legal action. They have staff attorneys AND various legal firms, around the country on retainers. But you may be able to squeeze them if the cost to defend will be proportionately higher than the cost of repair. But YOU are asserting a SAFETY MALFUNCTION. If GM absolutely feels they made the correct assumption based on the data, they will fight to the death to prove their position.
Take it for what it is worth, but I've been WITH GM in some of their legal suits and I know what they can do and what they are capable of.
The above is my opinion, BUT....
Good Luck, in whatever your decision is.
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Joined: 10-07-2010
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From: P-Town, Illinois
As I said a few posts ago, I'm not getting an attorney. Insurance looks like they are going to cover some of it, I assumed from the get go that I would end up paying for most if not all out of my pocket (I'm just a glass is half empty kind of guy).
At the end of the day, repairs are a little over $3100, does it suck? Yes. But stick a fork in me, I'm done.
I've filed a complaint with NHTSA and I've sent a nice letter to Mr. Mark Reuss. I doubt that either will come to anything but at this point I'm moving on.
GM sent the clensed and unclensed data today. The uncleansed data is in HEX format, so I can't read it. Cool thing is that it shows that I pulled 0.86 g before airbag deployment.
Like I said, the car is going to be out of my possession as soon as it gets repaired, more money down the drain. But at the end of the day, my family will not get in this car for any reason.
Thanks folks, appreciate the support through all this.
At the end of the day, repairs are a little over $3100, does it suck? Yes. But stick a fork in me, I'm done.
I've filed a complaint with NHTSA and I've sent a nice letter to Mr. Mark Reuss. I doubt that either will come to anything but at this point I'm moving on.
GM sent the clensed and unclensed data today. The uncleansed data is in HEX format, so I can't read it. Cool thing is that it shows that I pulled 0.86 g before airbag deployment.
Like I said, the car is going to be out of my possession as soon as it gets repaired, more money down the drain. But at the end of the day, my family will not get in this car for any reason.
Thanks folks, appreciate the support through all this.
Thanks for all of the input folks, it is much appreciated. It is good to know that there is a great community of people on this site that are willing to read and provide advice.
At this point, the only thing that I am out is the car itself, yes it stinks to make payments and pay for insurance when the car is inoperable. I am lucky enough to have a good weather backup vehicle to get me back and forth.
If there is one thing that I have learned with age, it is patience.
When I bought my first brand new car, it ended up in the dealer for repairs 16 times in less than 1 year, I filed a lemon law claim with a local attorney against the automaker and after a few months, many interviews, car inspections and the like, the automaker agreed to pay up, but only the fees to the law firm. I still had to deal with the car. Was it a pain? yep, was it worth it? no and yes, no because it didn't turn out how I wanted it to, yes because I felt like I went the extra mile to fight for what was right. Would I do it again, knowing what I know now? Probably not.
At this point, the only thing that I am out is the car itself, yes it stinks to make payments and pay for insurance when the car is inoperable. I am lucky enough to have a good weather backup vehicle to get me back and forth.
If there is one thing that I have learned with age, it is patience.
When I bought my first brand new car, it ended up in the dealer for repairs 16 times in less than 1 year, I filed a lemon law claim with a local attorney against the automaker and after a few months, many interviews, car inspections and the like, the automaker agreed to pay up, but only the fees to the law firm. I still had to deal with the car. Was it a pain? yep, was it worth it? no and yes, no because it didn't turn out how I wanted it to, yes because I felt like I went the extra mile to fight for what was right. Would I do it again, knowing what I know now? Probably not.
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Joined: 07-29-2008
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From: Mass
FYI Pedders pulled a .97 but I dont know if they have side bags
"Chevrolet HHR and HHR SS
Pedders puts the HHR SS on steroids with our Xa eXtreme Coilovers. Lowering the HHR SS to 595mm front and 610mm rear brings the CG down tosedan or coupe like. The upgraded damping and special alloy higher rate coils complete the transformation. Running original equipment Bridgestone tires on factory wheel with no other modifications the Pedderised HHR SS turns in.97 constant Gs on the skid pad."
"Chevrolet HHR and HHR SS
Pedders puts the HHR SS on steroids with our Xa eXtreme Coilovers. Lowering the HHR SS to 595mm front and 610mm rear brings the CG down tosedan or coupe like. The upgraded damping and special alloy higher rate coils complete the transformation. Running original equipment Bridgestone tires on factory wheel with no other modifications the Pedderised HHR SS turns in.97 constant Gs on the skid pad."
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Joined: 05-13-2008
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From: Knoxville, TN
Moonsign Autocrosses, has anybody asked him? I'm pretty sure by his last posts that his tires were squeeling the entire time around that course, and no problems.
After looking at the video...... it seems that the stars could have aligned just right, to screw you.
that is a pretty serious dip, combined with just the right skew, + hard diving brake turn onto the front right tire. the car probally thought it took a glancing blow, really hard to the side more than the front. Ya know bottomed out the A-arm sent a shock through the system. Just be glad those A-arms are Aluminum, otherwise the older casts would have had your wheel fold under. I'd ask them to look for bent camber bolts and twisted front sway bar, as well as check for cracks on the a-arms. Bummer, again things seemed to aligned just right. kinda like surving in a stairwell while the rest of WTC2 falls around you. Chaos Theory at its finest!
After looking at the video...... it seems that the stars could have aligned just right, to screw you.
that is a pretty serious dip, combined with just the right skew, + hard diving brake turn onto the front right tire. the car probally thought it took a glancing blow, really hard to the side more than the front. Ya know bottomed out the A-arm sent a shock through the system. Just be glad those A-arms are Aluminum, otherwise the older casts would have had your wheel fold under. I'd ask them to look for bent camber bolts and twisted front sway bar, as well as check for cracks on the a-arms. Bummer, again things seemed to aligned just right. kinda like surving in a stairwell while the rest of WTC2 falls around you. Chaos Theory at its finest!
