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Oil catch can - reader's digest version
As many here already know, I've built and installed oil catch cans in my PCV system. The information is buried in a very long thread here - https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...tch-can-54350/
To combat the TL;DR effect, I'm reposting how I did it here. The first step is to remove the PCV valve, buried inside the intake manifold. To do this you must remove the intake manifold. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...fold-ss-56181/ Now you'll be able to remove the valve, and install a plug, as seen here in Dbeluscak's post. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...e4/#post792654 At this time, with the intake manifold off, you should be mentally prepared for the need to clean your intake valves by walnut shell blasting. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...lves-ss-56184/ Now you need to drill and tap the intake manifold. 11/32" drill bit and 1/8" NPT tap is required. Also a 1/8" NPT fitting of your choice. I would just caution you to not just run the tap all the way in. Tap a little, test your fitting. Repeat until your fitting feels like it fits good and tight. If you just run the tap all the way, you may have a loose fitting "fitting"(a leak). You can always go back and remove more material, but you can't put it back if you go too far. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...58857a94f3.jpg Here is the fitting installed on the intake. Yes, it was leaking. I had tried an aluminum radiator drain fitting, due to concerns over galvanic corrosion. I later changed it to a brass fitting, no more leaks. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...da6dd261fc.jpg The catch cans need to be installed inline. One(intake-side), between the fitting you just installed, and the power brake booster vacuum line. Install the factory PCV valve between the can and the brake line. I ran a 1/2" hose from a barb fitting on the catch can, ground a little bit of the lip off the PCV valve (where the O-ring is now), and clamped the 1/2" hose directly to the PCV valve. Then a 5/16" hose clamped directly to the small end of the PCV valve to a barbed tee in the booster hose. Like this. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...28784dc1f7.jpg The second can(turbo-side), installs between port #2 in this pic, and the turbo. You can remove the existing steel braided line from the turbo, but the end on port #2 is easiest removed by destroying it. The line, not the port. No biggie, you won't need the line anymore. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...dd7f4061ab.jpg After some trials, I built the catch cans that I currently am using. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...15/#post797427 Since the cans have pretty low capacity, I built some "muck collection tanks". https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...16/#post797808 Here is how I mounted my turbo-side catch can. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...19/#post798748 Some fluid was getting through the filtration, So I started looking for ways to get the liquid to condense, and fall out of the air stream. I started with just copper tubing. Thanks to Cat Man HHR for suggesting coolers. Here is that part of the project, as well as where and how I mounted the intake-side catch can. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/2-0l...33/#post820614 Continue reading through post #344 for both coolers. After that is mostly just data on how much muck I was catching with each drain. Here is a drawing of the current configuration of my system. The red lines to the muck tanks aren't actually "dirty air", as labeled, but actually "dirty drip". I've put the factory PCV valve inline, between the catch can and the brake booster line. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...7b2ed8f480.jpg Many thanks to Dbeluscak and DrLoch, as well as donbrew, oldblue, Cat Man HHR, and many others who have contributed to this project. I've tried to gather all the necessary information, all here in one place. Let me know if anything seems to be missing. There's still a lot to read here, but it's much less than the nearly 40 pages in the catch can thread. :twothumbs: :twothumbs: |
Catch me if you can!
Nice write up rj |
Just passing this on for anybody else wanting to do this.
I right now only have a separator for the turbo and it doesn't really collect oil. I believe it's because of the K&N intake pipe, it has no check valve like the OEM. Will install OEM pipe and R&I intake manifold after the winter to install fitting and second separator. RJ, How many miles were on the engine when you did this? How bad were the valves coked up? Was synthetic oil used at every oil change? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 835082)
Just passing this on for anybody else wanting to do this.
I right now only have a separator for the turbo and it doesn't really collect oil. I believe it's because of the K&N intake pipe, it has no check valve like the OEM. Will install OEM pipe and R&I intake manifold after the winter to install fitting and second separator. RJ, How many miles were on the engine when you did this? How bad were the valves coked up? Was synthetic oil used at every oil change? Thanks I discovered the problem at 86,000 miles. No driveability issues, no codes. But valves in #4 coked bad enough to cause low compression. https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/ss-s...on-test-55768/ And from the shell blasting thread: "22. I performed another leak down test here. My prior readings - cylinders 1-3 had 2-4% leakage, and cylinder 4 had 23% leakage(crankcase and intake). Now cylinders 1-3 have 2% leakage and cylinder 4 has 5-6% leakage (crankcase). These results are better than I expected. They are not as clean as the BMW machines get them, but they were pretty good." And I have used Mobil1 on every oil change since I've owned it, May of 2014. |
Originally Posted by RJ_RS_SS_350
(Post 835095)
And I have used Mobil1 on every oil change since I've owned it, May of 2014.
Yours is a 2009 vs mine 2010. You had 86K on it vs my 20K when bought. Don't know the milage you blasted the valves. Both of us use Mobil 1 when change is do. I change mine before the DIC say's about 20%. There were records that the original owner of mine did oil changes about every 3K when he had it. Don't know what oil used. I know this isn't going to happen tomorrow, but when I R&I intake, I'm curious how much coking is on my valves. Will look at #4 as a possible cylinder for a larger amount. I now have 45K and in the spring/summer maybe 2K more. |
139,214 miles. I have retired my intake-side catch can. The bottom of the bowl blew out again. I ordered this can from an eBay seller.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...168d0792df.png https://www.ebay.com/itm/500ml-Cylin...-/163671086805 I first drilled and tapped the bottom of the bowl, for the fitting that drains to the collection tank. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...22ea81e235.jpg I purchased a 1" PVC coupler at the hardware store. The inside of one end had to be sanded(quite a bit) so that it would fit tightly over the supplied filter holder. Once I got it sized and forced all the way on, then I grinded down part of the outside of the PVC coupler, so that the bowl would thread back on. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...f8c16824e1.jpg I needed 1" of pipe to extend from the coupler, to better achieve chambering of the catch can. Then I packed the 1" pipe with the stainless pot scrubber pad material, packed more pot scrubber material around the 1"pipe, and carefully threaded on the bowl. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...2569e99e1b.jpg I was able to use the same mounting bracket as the previous can used, with only slight modification. I punched out the center knockout(remember, it is a modified 4" electrical junction box). Then I drilled out another hole to 1/4". I bought a 6mm cap screw and split washer at the hardware store. Replacing the unneeded dipstick, this screw went through the 1/4" hole(with pipe thread sealant) and became a mounting screw. I used one of the supplied fittings through the knockout hole as another mounting screw, where they show the(unwanted) breather. More sealant and a cap. Replaced some lines for length, rerouted other lines, done. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...a5c9e58633.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...25c652ee9a.jpg |
I finally found a good replacement can for the turbo-side, and it showed up today, a day early!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...3bedcc40ff.jpg https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Oil-...-/123871893914 Finding a catch can with fittings in these positions was difficult, I must have looked through 40 pages at eBay. Here's what came in the box. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...311050f673.jpg I actually only used the 3 pieces in the front row. Pretty good chambering, there's a small piece of stainless pot scrubber in the black piece. A trip to the hardware store for two fittings, 1/4" MPT x 3/8" hose barb. Reused the drain fitting, packed the can with the stainless pot scrubbers. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...cb12ae4209.jpg Installed the new can, done! A moment of silence in recognition of the service that the other cans provided..... https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...8da59c605b.jpg The bowl was broken on this old can also, there's quite a mess underneath the can. I won't have to worry about that anymore! |
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