2.0L Performance Tech 260hp (235hp auto) Turbocharged SS tuner version. 260 lb-ft of torque

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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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We've got more dyno information posted on our website, with more to come, but her's a good example of the PPC results on an automatic transmission Solstice with the same 2.0 LNF engine:

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This is a 3-gear pull, with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th represented. The lower line is stock; the upper line PPC equipped, but otherwise stock. I am showing three graphs to illustrate the peak power gains in each of the three gears.

As you can see, the gains are impressive, especially in 2nd gear, where the car picks up a stunning 50% power increase! This is on an otherwise stock car, and the results simply destroy any other method of increasing power in dollars spent vs. HP gained.
Old May 19, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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How much of an increase in boost are seen with the program installed? What is the A/F ratio? If you do bolt on to the vehicle latter when more stuff comes out will it be ok with the tuner or run the car lean?? Such as a Downpipe full exhaust??
Old May 20, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sanddragger28
How much of an increase in boost are seen with the program installed? What is the A/F ratio? If you do bolt on to the vehicle latter when more stuff comes out will it be ok with the tuner or run the car lean?? Such as a Downpipe full exhaust??
Typically, boost is increased 10-20%. There's no blanket answer for this, for the amount of boost increase varies with gear selection, as does the stock boost level.

A/F ratios are maintained in the 11-12:1 range.

The tuner is compatible with some modifications, but is best suited to otherwise stock vehicles. It's so much more 'bang for the bick' than hard parts replacements, and considerably less of a 'red flag' than such parts when you go in for warranty service! Subtle but outstandingly effective.
Old May 20, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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that price is kind of steep.But new age of engines so i guess new age prices..soo long to the 4-500 price tags for tunes.
I don't agree that the price represents either modern dollars (as suggested by c2vette) or engine technology/complexity. Based on the fact that "other tunes" (defined as 'a wide variety of offerings for a wide variety of vehicles by a wide variety of suppliers') are indeed most often in the $400-500 range (I've recently bought a Westers canned tune for a Vortec engine, which was in this range, and before doing so, I priced other options). I believe that Hahn is looking for a high-return on its investment in this product, and as such that's THEIR business decision to make. Having said that, the MARKET (that's us) will decide whether that business model is appropriate... but, for now, it is really the only option, and so early adopters must pay the price. (I may well be one of those early adopters).
Old May 21, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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I don't agree that the price represents either modern dollars (as suggested by c2vette) or engine technology/complexity. Based on the fact that "other tunes" (defined as 'a wide variety of offerings for a wide variety of vehicles by a wide variety of suppliers') are indeed most often in the $400-500 range (I've recently bought a Westers canned tune for a Vortec engine, which was in this range, and before doing so, I priced other options). I believe that Hahn is looking for a high-return on its investment in this product, and as such that's THEIR business decision to make. Having said that, the MARKET (that's us) will decide whether that business model is appropriate... but, for now, it is really the only option, and so early adopters must pay the price. (I may well be one of those early adopters).
I'd like to add that the actual MSRP for this product is currently near $1200, yet we have held the line at under a grand, even as the dollar has continued to fall against the euro. Fact is, we make less on these than ever now!

Nonetheless, it remains the best bang for the buck available. Hundreds of satisfied customers to date will agree!
Old May 23, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Damn...I would totally hit this up...seems like an awesome bang for your buck ratio....however I would hate to void my precious warrenty...
Old May 23, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Damn...I would totally hit this up...seems like an awesome bang for your buck ratio....however I would hate to void my precious warrenty...
You bring up a great point. Allow me to elaborate...

ANYTHING you do to your car to increase its performance runs the risk of jeopardizing your powertrain warranty. That being said, it pays to keep a low profile pertaining to modifications on your car while it is so close to new. More conventional mods such as boomy exhausts and flashy air intake systems are significant Red Flags when you visit your dealer. Subtle mods that fly 'under the radar' and are easily reversible are much better choices.
Old May 23, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Installed my Hahn (ppc/BSR) tune today. Great results, 22-24 psi boost in all gears (including first) using 93 Octane. With the stock tune it was very annoying that first gear boost varied from 6 psi to 10 psi with no way to predict what you would get at any given time, so eliminating that random variability alone is worth it for me. Everybody has their own opinion on whether to tune or not, and how much HP is enough, but for me this was exactly what I was looking for. I tend to drive smoothly and am easy on equipment, but long term reliability answers are of course a couple of years away at least. I am planning on a clutch upgrade at some point.
Old May 23, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by c2vette
Installed my Hahn (ppc/BSR) tune today. Great results, 22-24 psi boost in all gears (including first) using 93 Octane. With the stock tune it was very annoying that first gear boost varied from 6 psi to 10 psi with no way to predict what you would get at any given time, so eliminating that random variability alone is worth it for me. Everybody has their own opinion on whether to tune or not, and how much HP is enough, but for me this was exactly what I was looking for. I tend to drive smoothly and am easy on equipment, but long term reliability answers are of course a couple of years away at least. I am planning on a clutch upgrade at some point.
Excellent! I can now check of the "waiting to hear from c2vette" checkbox. Now I've just got to work the cost into my budget, and then put a few more miles on the car to shake out any early issues before I mod.
Old May 23, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by c2vette
Installed my Hahn (ppc/BSR) tune today. Great results, 22-24 psi boost in all gears (including first) using 93 Octane. With the stock tune it was very annoying that first gear boost varied from 6 psi to 10 psi with no way to predict what you would get at any given time, so eliminating that random variability alone is worth it for me. Everybody has their own opinion on whether to tune or not, and how much HP is enough, but for me this was exactly what I was looking for. I tend to drive smoothly and am easy on equipment, but long term reliability answers are of course a couple of years away at least. I am planning on a clutch upgrade at some point.
Thank you, c2vette. We appreciate your business! Have fun and please keep us posted.



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