I know, you've mentioned you don't have a laptop, so that limits your choices. I was just stating why I made my choice. I'm sure both are good products, I'm liking what Vince is doing for me (we are still working on it, it's not a canned tune) and HP tuners just doesn't fit my situation.

 

Officer read this thread it might help ya. Dude is doing full boltons and a tune

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-...s-tune-228893/ He made 140whp on a dynojet which reads high

 

So....that seems like a lotta cheddar for a 30hp gain? What does a stock 2.4L put to the wheels?

 

stock 2.4 i have no idea man

 

175hp I believe non tuned..

 

I meant to the wheels on a dyno.

 

I say just get whatever you think is easier for you..If you want a Trifecta then get it...If you want HP Tuners then get it.....what I got works for me....My tuner is right there....