CGS vs. Airaid Test: Part 1
Originally Posted by Lee3333
I dont consider it a 'ricer' look. Rather, the tube and filter is a 4 cylinder look. It is the same for the Saturn that my wife drives, as well as VW's. When I look under the hood, I want to see ENGINE, not plastic boxes.
I'm with you!
I want to see engine. Below is a picture of my favorite engine that I have owned. It was hard to find the air filter among all that engine!
The car got around 25 MPG, was pretty silent in a ballsey sorta way and did around 150 MPH from the factory with its five speed. My 1989 Taurus SHO!
I miss it at times.
It fit a lot of people and stuff, went virtually unnoticed by the police, had little resale value ( who wants a five speed Taurus?), and spawned fans at the track and collector clubs!
A Yamaha six cyl engine in a Ford
I dare ya to call it a ricer!
Originally Posted by cj krause
Yamaha is Japanese

Yamaha Motor Marine designed the engine if I'm remembering correctly.I wonder if an SHO engine could ever fit in an HHR? Man, that would be cool!
I have friends that take Toranado engines/transaxels and put'em in Corvairs! Crazy stuff , but fun!
Originally Posted by cj krause
i had a 64 Covair Monza Spyder in high school,,, my all time favorite car till i got the HHR.
I have a simple 110 HP four speed. The turbo is an intersting beast, a lot of fun but a fair amount of maintainence. We used to wrap the exhausts to make them heat up quicker. A bonus effect was they rusted out quicker!

Aspirating these old cars was often a hit or miss for us driveway mechanics. Kind of like what we are doing here in this thread ( to bring it back on topic a bit). I currently have dual Ford 150 Ranger mufflers on my 140 HP '67. This opened it up a lot, as the 140 has four carbs and breathes quite well, it just needs less back pressure .
The HHrs are sensitive to just the right amount of back pressure if I read things correctly in the forums.
I have not enjoyed an automobile as much as the Corvainr until the HHR came along. Sure my wonderful SHO was a great ride, but the platform was blase compared to that of the HHR and Corvair. Go Chevy!
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled thread on the intakes systems. I want a quiteone. I hate noise these days and even wear ear plugs when tooling around in the convertibles. Nerve damage sux
( firecracker incident when I was younger).Any way, the dynos will show which of the two current air intakes will perform better. More competition may even come later. For me, I guess I'll put up with the stock set up and the silly way it hides the engine ,....for now.
It's an excuse to paste another shot of an engine ALMOST uncluttered ( silly spare tire!):

Hmm, I really should start a thread on favorite engines or something. This is getting WAY off topic
Originally Posted by Harpozep
I'm with you!
I want to see engine. Below is a picture of my favorite engine that I have owned. It was hard to find the air filter among all that engine!
The car got around 25 MPG, was pretty silent in a ballsey sorta way and did around 150 MPH from the factory with its five speed. My 1989 Taurus SHO!
A Yamaha six cyl engine in a Ford
I dare ya to call it a ricer!

I want to see engine. Below is a picture of my favorite engine that I have owned. It was hard to find the air filter among all that engine!
The car got around 25 MPG, was pretty silent in a ballsey sorta way and did around 150 MPH from the factory with its five speed. My 1989 Taurus SHO!
A Yamaha six cyl engine in a Ford
I dare ya to call it a ricer!

Yamaha also developed the V-8 version used in the 1996 SHO, using the Duratec as a baseline. That engine went out of production in 1999. Power was similar too, at 235 hp and 230 ft/lb of torque. This version was retired in 1999 because of the relative lack of interest in a heavier car that was slower than the V6 SHO it replaced.
You'll be happy to know, however, that the V-8 engine has been retuned and reused in the Volvo XC-90 SUV. The engine is a 4.4 L aluminum DOHC V8 which produces 311 hp and 325 ft/lb.
Originally Posted by captain howdy
Look under the hood of most imports and you will find a shiney tube attached to a K&N filter going to nowhere even near cold air. That's the only reason why I draw that comparison.
Here's a quick sampling of some intakes - note; these are all American made V8 engine intakes:
Originally Posted by SoCalHHR
Time to re-think that theory CH. Instead if "ricer" intakes, you should just get used to caling them "FI" intakes - since most fuel injected engines use them.
Here's a quick sampling of some intakes - note; these are all American made V8 engine intakes:

Here's a quick sampling of some intakes - note; these are all American made V8 engine intakes:

2 little problems with that information...
No 5.7 in a Mustang... 4.6 now, 5.0 then. Camaro's has the LS1, which was a 5.7.. Maybe you meant the 2007 GT500? Oops, that's got a blown 5.4...
The 300C Hemi 5.7 model was first available in 2005. I've got a 2006. Back in '2003, there was a 300M, but that had a 3.5 V6.
Dont' rag on me now Will; - I just pulled 'em off a web store.
Some may be labeled wrong - but you MUST get the idea?
This was targeted towards CH's "ricey look" comment.
These intakes are for American V8 engines - get it?
Got it? good.
Some may be labeled wrong - but you MUST get the idea?
This was targeted towards CH's "ricey look" comment.
These intakes are for American V8 engines - get it?
Got it? good.
Originally Posted by SoCalHHR
Dont' rag on me now Will; - I just pulled 'em off a web store.
Got it? good.
Got it? good.
Touchy touchy, Mike... We understand you're a (huge) fan of the CGS, but let us stay somewhat objective, shall we?
CH's comment about the CGS intake, while being an opinion, was supporting the AiRaid intake's different look from the Ricer crowd. (Yes, I'm a card-carrying member). You're absolutely right in that the short-ram intake is among the most popular for contemporary cars, a designation which both brands fall into.
I'll point out to those who don't like the tube-type intakes the ultimate man-car, enough power to hit 200 MP/H in 21.3 seconds. The Hennessey Viper 1000. And it's got polished intake tubes, too (of course, these are going to the big honkin' intercooler):



Though, more rooted to the discussion at hand, Hennessey's Cold Air kit for the Ram SRT-10 has the polished intake tube. Being that John knows a thing or two about power, I'd have to say that the tube intakes are gonna' be around for a while. Though my own preference is the AiRaid intake over the CGS, the short-ram is not only for ricers, guys!


