2.4L Performance Tech 16 valve 172 hp EcoTec with 162 lb-ft of torque

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GDZHHR
Some people just like beating a dead horse! I don't doubt most of what JoeR says, BUT, to insist that everyone else must be wrong unless they have before and after dynos or track times gets old.
OK, Mike... If not creditable dyno results, then 1/4 mi. results. Either will suffice!

Heresay is BS, unless otherwise proven!
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker
I am Andy :)

.... but to keep sitting back and saying provide me before and after dyno's before even listening to people is just being short sighted.

No it's not! Take your choice... dyno or dragstrip. Either or both will show the results! Butt dynos DO NOT count, folks! Usually just more noise that "somehow" equates to HP!!

I personally don't like dyno's as the vehicle isn't moving and its not pulling anything. While it might be a good way to tell the actual HP difference between a different set of mods it doesn't truly represent how each mod might perform under a real world test.

Well call it (dyno) what you want...

Real world test... Well take it to the drag strip!!

Either of the above can "tell the truth".... Anything else is BS!! Sorry!
....end of "intelligent conversation"....
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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JoeR, I am sorry I got everyone worked up, and I am sorry I mentioned the intake. If I'd known it would have caused such a problem I'd have stopwatched the car before and after. I wish you were here to have tried it with us. I am not sure about the physics of "why", but there was indeed an improvement in accelleration.

My main reason for posting was to ask about removal of the enrichment delay improving off the line accelleration.

I am not sure what the AFR acronym refers to?

My apologies for unintentionally causing an uproar.

God bless, Marc
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Well I finished my CASE relearn and definitely feel like the power is better now. I read a thread that the PCMforless guys had on the Trailvoy forum and Kelly said others had gotten full benefit of the tune after the CASE was done.

I was playing around with the Dashhawk and noticed it has a 0-60, 1/4 mile and other things as well. So I will look at that tomorrow and see if I can get some results, but Marc if you come over next week I have until Friday for this stuff to be postmarked, we can run your stock 2LT and compare it to my Tuned 2LT for some real numbers that might help for some skeptics.
Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker
I am Andy :)



I personally don't like dyno's as the vehicle isn't moving and its not pulling anything. While it might be a good way to tell the actual HP difference between a different set of mods it doesn't truly represent how each mod might perform under a real world test.


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