Real cold air
i raced ls1 powered fbodys for years, what ch is saying is facts. although on a 2.4l car i dont think it will make a difference. If you could get a smooth tube to work it would recieve better airflow but its a 150 horse engine it wont pick up that much of a gain. with the ram air fbodys we smoothed out the factory intake air hose/box so it was a smooth straight shot into the intake. the ribbed style tubeing will disrupt the airflow into the engine. (mike from socal should be able to confirm this) dynos have proved this time and time again.
that nascar tubeing that was reffered to is to cool the brakes and driver, neither will gain from a smooth airflow they just need air from the outside, look at prostock intakes smooth and aerodynamic
that nascar tubeing that was reffered to is to cool the brakes and driver, neither will gain from a smooth airflow they just need air from the outside, look at prostock intakes smooth and aerodynamic
Originally Posted by Snoopy
What I have learned from personal trial an error and from "friends"...
*Warning* your personal experience may differ!
...and if it does, lets share the data!
Originally Posted by Snoopy
I take CH's side on this. Just because of common sense. Smooth would be better that "rippled", if you think about wind turbulance.
Also, he's not saying rippled will not work, just that smooth is better for a COLD AIR RAM INTAKE SYSTEM. All Formula 1 cars and all the "top end" vehicles I have seen use custom smooth tubing...because of efficientcy
another thing to consider here is the less connections you make (meaning keeping the number of seperate pieces to a minimum) the better the airflow.
think of it as a airplane fuselage, the less drag = improved airflow
think of it as a airplane fuselage, the less drag = improved airflow
Originally Posted by captain howdy
It's rippled plastic though.
All of those little ripples screw up the air flow.
Why do you think the tubing on a CAI is smooth?
A mandrel bent tube would be 1000% times better for air flow.
You are going to have to seal off the filter completely in order to make it work right and be a true ram air system.
Otherwise any air you are forcing in through the tip is going to be negated by the air being sucked in through the filter itself. 
All of those little ripples screw up the air flow.
Why do you think the tubing on a CAI is smooth?
Otherwise any air you are forcing in through the tip is going to be negated by the air being sucked in through the filter itself.
Originally Posted by crowbar
i raced ls1 powered fbodys for years, what ch is saying is facts. although on a 2.4l car i dont think it will make a difference. If you could get a smooth tube to work it would recieve better airflow but its a 150 horse engine it wont pick up that much of a gain. with the ram air fbodys we smoothed out the factory intake air hose/box so it was a smooth straight shot into the intake. the ribbed style tubeing will disrupt the airflow into the engine. (mike from socal should be able to confirm this) dynos have proved this time and time again.
that nascar tubeing that was reffered to is to cool the brakes and driver, neither will gain from a smooth airflow they just need air from the outside, look at prostock intakes smooth and aerodynamic
that nascar tubeing that was reffered to is to cool the brakes and driver, neither will gain from a smooth airflow they just need air from the outside, look at prostock intakes smooth and aerodynamic
If this was such a high perfomance motor I would probally get the CGS.
I'm not using the plastic pipe stuff. I have steel flex pipe to use from the fog light holes to the filter box. It dose have a smooth inside and should work good. I can paint it to.
And as for what CH said about my panties ridding up. Maybe you should get your head out of your _____ CH.....
For everyone else. I'll post pix when it's done and let you know how it works.
Originally Posted by john 11
Back to Lee's Original Post
Let us know your progress.
Let us know your progress.
Actually, watching the tuners on NOPI tv, I have seen some funky ram air devices on the front of their cars. It would be interesting on the HHR.
How about adding this Airaid-Cold-Air-Intake with a scoop on the hood?
Has anyone put a scoop on the hood yet? If so post some photos...
Has anyone put a scoop on the hood yet? If so post some photos...


