forget all that stuff and just drop in the LS2 from the SSR

That....thing....moves

 

We have already tuned a 2.4 with the m60 on a Saturn Sky . Who want's to have one installed PM me and we can work something out .

 

I thought that Westers only offered limited support for the ECU in the HHR? Like only 2006 Automatic? I too have been sitting on a blower kit for months now waiting for a solution other than the E-manage.

 

You can also use HPTuners. They have cracked the stock ECM for 2.4's.

 

HP Tuners doesn't support 2 bar map on 4 cylinder apps per say.
You can't just swap out a 1 bar Map for a 2 bar map and hope it's all good when you tune things. This impacts other baseline features of the engine and having a 2 bar configuration is different.
I can do the same thing with the E-manage and it only costs $300 per VIN.
Don't get me wrong I really like HP Tuners, I'm just more confident with a piggyback at this point than I am with HP Tuners when it comes to the ECOTEC and boost.

 

Have you tried anything like Megasquirt?.. I had a lot of luck with them on my Eclipse Turbo..

 

well i have heard the piggy back works, its how speedmafia got there turbo working

 

Megasquirt is a very good piggyback/stand alone, but it's hard to justify a $4000 price tag for a complete system using a DIY home built piggyback controller. You can't get liability insurance to cover a system when it uses a home built computer controller.
Megasquirt walks all over the E-manage even Ultimate, but E-manage is a commercial product available in major B&M retailers offering a higher level of refinement in product.
On that same note I do have a wiring configuration and baseline maps for the MS on the engine dyno. I'd put it in my own car, but not someone elses.

Piggyback systems work - I know they work and I have made them work many times including the "impossible to work with" Saturn DIS.

speedmafia uses the Perfect Power and Unichip piggy back controllers and they work VERY well at dealing with everything the ECOTEC ECU throws at them. SpeedMafia worked out the details and it's probably a real solid solution. BUT I think they too would take an ECU tune over a piggy back any day.

Don't get me wrong any piggy back can work with any ECU as long as you can scale the signals to and from the ECU, but it takes a bit of an electronics engineer to hash out all the details some times.
You can look back to jbody and even Saturn forums to see how people cried for years about how it was impossible to get anything to work all the while we were tuning boosted Saturns all over so-cali with the e-manage. (Both fuel and timing control)

Heck a J&S UltraSafeguard works too - they actually have a specific model for S series Saturns, but all of a handful of people even know it is available.

 

intresting

 

You can try all of those piggy back / standalone units but they are nothing like a OEM ecm tuned correctly .. I use the stock ECM on my Turbo TB SS. Piggyback are for those who don't have what we do as far as tuning though the stock ECM .