I've never installed or actually heard RE but I have heard of them, mixed reviews online. My friend did an install of some 12s and the guy didn't like the sound but it turned out in the end the box design itself was wrong and he redid it and was happy. So I think a lot of reviews on subs are just wrong because the boxes they are not spec out properly.

Yes, 4+ sounds like a bit much but I've been there done that and know I will need the extra subs. I have no idea of the true sound and power they will unleash in the hhr but I'd rather go too much then too little.

 

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Very true. My guy keeps his store going out of the love for music and the old way of doing things, he does not profit enough to realistically consider his business a success financially. If he wasn't already set financially he would of closed up shop long ago. 70% of his biz is strictly installs, people bringing their own sh*t in and him installing it. He rarely makes sales of equipment, when he does it's a ton believe me, but it's only 10% of his biz. The other 10% is misc parts people need like amp kits, replays ect. parts that they forgot to grab online or wherever, the other 10% is building sub boxes for people doing their own installs. But, he has a soundroom garage where he has all kinds of different boxes with different brands of subs and amps and people use to check that out all day long. Now he does it by appointment only because so many just took advantage of it and had never planned to buy or have him install anything, they came just to listen. He even has caravan and a older eclipse inside that are setup to change out subs and amps easily so people can try different stuff out.

Maybe a dozen or two shops like his in the entire nation I bet now. But back in the 80s and early 90s there were plenty. I have lived in MN, WI, TX, FL and I got to see some real cool car audio stores. There was one in FL that had the same setup as my friend with the cars but 3-4x more of everything, I remember some cars had three different head units with a power button above each to test out different head units, not that there is any difference between them being none of their power is being used to power speakers, but it was cool. I knew another guy back in the day over in South Minneapolis that had a mechanics shop and gas station he took over for his dad that passed. He built onto that and had a similar setup my friend has, I remember going there after work most days for pop and whatnot because it was close to where I lived and there was always a crowd there. It was mix of a metal, rock and rap crowd so it was pretty damn cool. But then one day a few years after it began he couldn't make a payment or something and sold the entire station off, no more stereo shop. Haven't seen anything like it again until I moved here. But sadly my friend of about 6 years is shutting up shop and going to be doing installs only at his home come end of next summer. Nothing financial just some personal reasons I guess. Maybe the current stereo crowd is getting too young for him IDK.

A lot of TRENDING going on with everything. From firearms to clothing to stereos to food. Many people just don't know what the F they want it seems. I also see people fall into the act of changing up what they planned to buy because of something someone said, now this can work out sometimes for someone who knows nothing about car audio but for the most part it's another person liking and/promoting a brand they like and nothing more. Not saying hhrumadbruh is doing this, he gives some good not well known name brands and I asked for his advice, but many times it's just a person promoting a brand they have or heard is good.

Too much coffee i'm typing way too fast and long.

 

I have used RE...and really like the upper models. The bargin-priced ones are just THAT....bargin priced. But the better ones can take a hit! But just like cars and mods, everyone has their personal favorites & opinions.

 

sound is very personal and percieved and heard different in every car by every set of ears, so have at it , and see what you hear, enjoy

 

You are saying you need 4 12s to get the bass you need? How can that be acoustically balanced in your car? I have 3 sets of Kicker QS 6.5 components to even out my sound. 4 12's will rattle an HHR to death.

 

OP - you put 800 watts to this sub when it clearly states 300rms and 700max? And you are wondering why you smelled something?

I beg you to go sit in a properly time aligned SQ car. You will be amazed at how different your outlook on car audio will be afterwards.




Silver - no offense but that guys install is the most hideous thing and out of place thing I have ever seen. It wastes the entire back area without even taking up the entire back area. If that were my SUV I would have said NO re-do it now.





Do any of you use processing with time alignment? I used to be like you guys always wanting the biggest loudest subs that took the most power but then I sat in a properly set up/time aligned truck that had only one sub but used a 3 way front. OMG the vocals and the impact all being on the dash and beyond was incredible. I actually could not listen to my stereo for 4 days after that. The old me just thought that more bass and more tweet was what it was all about. There is so much more.

The same thing happend to my girl when she heard my system after time alignment. She said now I am jealous so I bought her the same Pioneer DEH 80prs hu I am using. My boss, who has hi-end Boston comps front and rear plus two subs, did not believe that there would be much difference in mine vs his until he heard the first few seconds of my system. He stated three things that stood out the most. First was "wow you have vocals that I could never have". Second was "now I see what you are talking about". The third was "you don't have much bass coming from the rear, all your bass must be coming from the doors". I laughed and smiled to all comments.

 

07azhhr all i have to say is thank you

 

I have really been having a tough time keeping my mouth shut as it is to each their own but man o man I keep seeing these kinds of threads and it is just wearing on me to not say anything.

I should add that the next day I asked my boss if he added a new HU to his x-mas list. His face showed that he wanted to and he even started to say just that but then mentioned having too many other things to buy right now lol.

 

I had an alpine with time alignment and it makes a huge difference. I almost bought the 80PRS but I have an XM tuner which that deck doesn't support...makes me sad.

 

Yes I am SpaceCowboy, yes I am.

As for balance I see someone here has popped in on that issue to. It can be done by ear or processor. The HHR will also have 2 sets(8 total) of component speakers.