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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ssmail8835
After this free oil change, I'll probably go by the DIC and change around 50%. I pay attention to the oil info on the DIC.
If you pay attention to the DIC, why then change at 50%. Boy you guys most love to waste time, money and resources.

Would you change anything else that still had 50% life remaining?
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nfboy
If you pay attention to the DIC, why then change at 50%. Boy you guys most love to waste time, money and resources.

Would you change anything else that still had 50% life remaining?

Because that's the criteria that I have established for myself. Whether we love to waste time, money and resources is our concern.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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I fill my tank when it gets down to half. Some things Im not comfortable waiting until the last minute. I may try out the indicator and see how the oil looks/feels at maybe 30% at the lowest, but I can't see wainting until it tells me at 0%. Just too much of a risk and I get the impression that I would be out of pocket if something seized or blew.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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With all due respect, Guys....

I noticed WE have been getting off the thread topic a lot (I'm guilty also).

The oil change interval "thing" has been thoroughly digested in another thread. The question here, I believe, is about the DIC and people are just relating how they use it....or not.

But, if it's a worthy topic, we could start it again on the old or new thread.

IMO
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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did anyone answer the question... is there a mechanical link between the steering wheel and the power assit unit? read through the link... steering by wire... it didn't say that every compent needed to be replaced with high tech stuff. if information is is dispersed from one component to another component via wire/optics vice mechanical then it is steering by wire... do i need a hacksaw or wirecutters to disable it... R&P doesn't mean that the system is NOT SBW. is just a component just like the steering wheel... next fall I plan on put R&P on my 55 chevy... without the hyd pump and hoses it is just R&P steering. with the pump and hoses it becomes power steering reguardlest how the energy is applied to the wheels. R&P can be one componet of a SBW system.

so the question still stands... is there a mechanical or electrical link between the controller and the assist unit. the chevy engineer have to be laughing their butts off. the question is simple... if I COULD SEE i would go out and find out for myself.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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here is a tbs that i found on the other hhr site... not sure that you can link to it without being a member. anyway so much for the hhr steer NOT being new... modern... techically advanced steering system. which by the way drives the R&P. also by the way my wifes 70 Malibu has a steering option call PARKING ASSIST... the steering is more sesitive the slower you are traveling... they just did it mechanically back then.
here is the link... still looking for more info


http://www.hhrclub.org/gforum.cgi?po...teering;#18613

i am pretty sure by now that this is a STEERING BY WIRE system... won't use the phrase fly by wire anymore...
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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Its new technology, it will improve.

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Redflyr....

there is diffinately a metal shaft from the firewall, thru a "knuckle", to another shaft that goes directly into the top of the rack and pinon. Will check for further info on exactly how this vehicle is electronically assisted.
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
Redflyr....

there is diffinately a metal shaft from the firewall, thru a "knuckle", to another shaft that goes directly into the top of the rack and pinon. Will check for further info on exactly how this vehicle is electronically assisted.
Hey Snoopy

i am beginning to think that the $140 plus for the maintenance manual myt be worth the investment.


Mesa??? i was raised in LV NV... familiar with Phoenix and Flagstaff and nowhere...
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
With all due respect, Guys....

I noticed WE have been getting off the thread topic a lot (I'm guilty also).

The oil change interval "thing" has been thoroughly digested in another thread. The question here, I believe, is about the DIC and people are just relating how they use it....or not.

IMO
Being somewhat of a computer geek I wish that we had access to what information the DIC is storing and computing from that info. It could be storing all kinds of things like daily temps, accelerations, number of times car is started, how much air the air filter has passed since the last reset, etc. There is all kinds of interesting things that you could do with all that information with the right algorithms. That is the reason that they developed the oil life indicator, because it is more complicated than just changing oil at rote intervals like 3k miles or 3 months - what does that have to do with the quality of the oil in the vehicle - not much because it doesn't take into account any external variables affecting the engine - zero. Going by the rote rule 3 mo. or 3k mi., if I changed my oil, drove home, and parked it in the garage for 3 mo. I would have to change the oil, and right there you are already using the algorith of "common sense" to see that the rule is not very accurate.

The oil life calculations attempt to present a more realistic indication of the quality of the oil in the car. Perhaps in the future a "sensor" could be developed to actually measure contaminants in the oil and present an even more accurate indication. But for now the oil life calculation is applying engineering knowledge of the vehicles actual operation to the customers requirements to keep the vehicle's maintenence up to date, and I think its an excellent idea. I know car companies do some dumb things, but risking ruining engines and having to fix them all becuase of a flawed oil life indicator you told the customers to use is not something I think they are dumb enough to do.




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