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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Well, they didn't work on my car again after having it sit there all day. I'm dropping it off again on Wednesday so hopefully they'll fix it finally...
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Hello, I had the pump installed recently,and the brakes at cold start work great. Do you happen to know what the effect on engine/turbo performance would be if the technician did not perform Step 40 in TSB #09-05-22-001A that says: "If the vehicle had the Stage 1 turbo upgrade kit installed prior to getting the vacuum pump retrofit, the technician should now contact Techline to get the revised Stage 1 calibrations for the ECM." and instead simply stopped at Step 39 as in the original TSB to "Reprogram the engine control module (ECM) and electronic brake control module (EBCM) with updated calibration files using the TIS2WEB Service Programming System (SPS)"?

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rlee63a4
Hello, I had the pump installed recently,and the brakes at cold start work great. Do you happen to know what the effect on engine/turbo performance would be if the technician did not perform Step 40 in TSB #09-05-22-001A that says: "If the vehicle had the Stage 1 turbo upgrade kit installed prior to getting the vacuum pump retrofit, the technician should now contact Techline to get the revised Stage 1 calibrations for the ECM." and instead simply stopped at Step 39 as in the original TSB to "Reprogram the engine control module (ECM) and electronic brake control module (EBCM) with updated calibration files using the TIS2WEB Service Programming System (SPS)"?

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Welcome to the site Ron.
Good question. I would assume it would still have the original turbo upgrade reflash. If the tech didn't revise or update it, then you could possibly have some errant codes pop up or even a loss in WOT boost pressure. Not really sure about this one.
Best bet is to call the dealer that did the pump install. They can contact Techline and verify that the reflash update was done based on your vin number.
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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It took my dealer lest than a week to get my parts and a day to install with all the brackets etc. They had listed.
After reading this my? Is what if you have the vacuum pump added and Then later on have the gm Turbo upgrade installed?
Is there a different flash for the computer?
I would not think so?
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Then explain these last two steps from the amended TSB #09-05-22-001A noting that Step 40 was added for vehicles that had the turbo upgrade BEFORE the vacuum pump mod. So, there's got to be something different between the flashes AFTER the pump is added. Otherwise, why contact the Tech Line to get revise Stage 1 calibration for the ECM?


"This bulletin is being revised to add step 40 to the vacuum pump installation procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin 09-05-22-001 (Section 05 — Brakes)."
39. Reprogram the engine control module (ECM) and electronic brake control module (EBCM) with updated calibration files using the TIS2WEB Service Programming System (SPS).

40. If the vehicle had the Stage 1 turbo upgrade kit installed prior to getting the vacuum pump retrofit, the technician should now contact Techline to get the revised Stage 1 calibrations for the ECM.
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjacksauto
It took my dealer lest than a week to get my parts and a day to install with all the brackets etc. They had listed.
After reading this my? Is what if you have the vacuum pump added and Then later on have the gm Turbo upgrade installed?
Is there a different flash for the computer?
I would not think so?
Yes. If you have the turbo upgrade added there are 2 different reflashes. One for those with the brake vacuum pump. One for those without. Also remember that these 2 reflashes are for the automatic transmission SS's.
To simplify: If you get either upgrade(turbo or brake pump) it has to be reflashed. Doesn't matter which order you get them.
Just to confuse you, the 5 speed SS's get a different turbo upgrade reflash than the automatics do.
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JAMIROBri
Well, they didn't work on my car again after having it sit there all day. I'm dropping it off again on Wednesday so hopefully they'll fix it finally...
Thank you for sharing the update. Have they provided you a reason that they can't get this resolved for you in your prior visits?

Michelle, Chevrolet Customer Service
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Thanks fireman for the info
either way you get 290 good right?
Rlee did u find out if they reflashed or not?
If they did not Then hopefully they will do it soon.
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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What year cars does this effect? What are the symptoms of it if it needs to be done?
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Here's the thumbnail version of the TSB for you AC66....

#09-05-22-001: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-Up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump) - (Jan 22, 2009)


Subject: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump)


Models: 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS

Built Prior to January 2009 and Equipped with Automatic Transmission



Attention: Proceed with this bulletin ONLY if a customer has brought their vehicle in for this concern. For vehicles in inventory or in the service department for an unrelated customer concern, review Bulletin # 08-05-22-001A to reprogram EBCM built prior to and including VIN Breakpoint 8S653008.


Condition
Some customers may comment that extra effort may be needed to depress the brake pedal on cold start-up.

Correction
Add an auxiliary vacuum booster pump to the brake system using the procedure listed below.



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