R.I.P. Turbo
Mine was built in month 2 of production for the 2008 MY. I had a friend of mine who's a broker locate only 5 in michigan at the time and he brought it to a dealership to processthe paperwork and at the time the dealer never saw one before and people were all over it checking it out. It's sort of funny and also sad that GM isnt educating people about future and current products. If it was still new I would have just ignored it, but I have had it for a year and a half! If they put a cheap turbo in the car it has a bushing not a bearing, I am hoping it has a bearing, but sad it puked so early and it's a freeway queen with no mods, so it's not like I am hammering on it... Thank the stars it's under warranty!!!
First off your turbo is not a cheap unit. A bushing would not last 3 months in a turbo.
Second the unit is a much improved unit from ones in the past. Today they are water cooled and use oils that will not carbon up.
Third any part will fail and a percentage of all will. For as many Solstice, Skys, Cobalt SS and HHR SS there are running around there are few turbo failures. I have seen more radio failures vs turbo's.
I am sorry you got one of the few bad ones but in life we all draw the short lot at some point and this one was just your turn.
GM and most other MFG's learned their lessons on turbo's in the 80's, They offered cheaper non water cooled units that carboned up and puked berings in 30K miles. Try to find a T type Buick pre 1984 or Monte Carlo Turbo with a original unit with more than 30K miles. THe GN models came out with the new Water colled units and bearings were no longer an issue.
Other makes also had turbo problems back then but today most of all the issues have been addressed.
Electronics also have played a great part of the improvments too.
A turbo engine is not a simple or easy engine to build. That is why we see things in our engine you seldom see on a normal engine like oil squirters for the piston cooling and sodium valves. GM did not take short cuts here. The engineers did their job. THe marketing and tech areas are what got left out on the SS program.
Before my SS I had a 2500HD GMC with a Duramax and after 135,000 miles I had to off it when diesel hit $5.00 a gallon. That motor was flawless and TONS of grunt and the turbo was awesome. My SS was one of first 1,000 built so all the parts going into it were new for the vehicle and assembly people as well. Yeah, luck or unluck of the draw it is what it is. When it's running right it is tons of fun!
HERE IS THE KILLER!
The service guy want to know if I am the guy that called with a blown supercharger? I told him I am the guy with the blown turbo. He informs me that my HHR SS has a supercharger in it, to which I just chuckle... but he thinks I am wrong!!!! So he pops the hood and see what on the airbox?? "TURBOCHARGED" ... he get quite, but insists it says supercharged on the back hatch SS emblem, so he walks back there and REALLY looks and says "Oh... well been wrong all day" Over his desk are several elaborate gold GM service awards for excellence... too bad he doesn't know the products he's selling or working on.
... no wonder dealers don't know crap about the 2.0L GMPP Stage 1 Kit... they don't even know it's got a #$%#@ TURBO!
BTW, the turbo is on the 100K warranty and drove out in a loaner, so I did get a little.... what a mess.
... and right now, fresh out of BooSSt!!! LOL
The service guy want to know if I am the guy that called with a blown supercharger? I told him I am the guy with the blown turbo. He informs me that my HHR SS has a supercharger in it, to which I just chuckle... but he thinks I am wrong!!!! So he pops the hood and see what on the airbox?? "TURBOCHARGED" ... he get quite, but insists it says supercharged on the back hatch SS emblem, so he walks back there and REALLY looks and says "Oh... well been wrong all day" Over his desk are several elaborate gold GM service awards for excellence... too bad he doesn't know the products he's selling or working on.
... no wonder dealers don't know crap about the 2.0L GMPP Stage 1 Kit... they don't even know it's got a #$%#@ TURBO!
BTW, the turbo is on the 100K warranty and drove out in a loaner, so I did get a little.... what a mess.
... and right now, fresh out of BooSSt!!! LOL
Guys the HHR SS is a mystery to most people and many dealers as they have never seen one let alone sold one.
With ony around 4500 sold in 08 few dealers ever got one and most dealer service department never worked on one.
Now you know why GM is cutting dealers and working to make a stronger dealer network. The smaller and non active dealers in service have been getting letters and this is part of it. GM was limited on what they could do to poor dealers and now with the Chapter 11 they can take charge of some of the problem dealers.
This should be less of an issue from here forward.
With ony around 4500 sold in 08 few dealers ever got one and most dealer service department never worked on one.
Now you know why GM is cutting dealers and working to make a stronger dealer network. The smaller and non active dealers in service have been getting letters and this is part of it. GM was limited on what they could do to poor dealers and now with the Chapter 11 they can take charge of some of the problem dealers.
This should be less of an issue from here forward.
... The saga continues. The dealer reported yesterday that the intake tubes were the root cause. I told them the turbo spun a bearing, they said the tubes were the root casue. Today I got the call after the tubes were all replaced that the turbine came apart and the turbo was smoked... "no kidding". The dealer ordered the unit and were told by GM that there are only 2 turbo's in the US and they are slated for cars so I have to wait. GM couldnt even give them a expect date!!!!
Now I am wondering which side came apart and where did the blades go?? The service rep didnt know. I already have 900 miles on my loaner!
Now I am wondering which side came apart and where did the blades go?? The service rep didnt know. I already have 900 miles on my loaner!
So would I. I dont believe the tube had anything to do with it, the guy could have cracked it taking it out for all I know. This is where GM service gets shakey, because the guy talking to me isnt a wrench so it's all second hand information. I'll get to the bottom of the turbo failure and report back.
I have read about a couple failures on here and I can't believe there arent any in stock anywhere! It would be nice to have them $$$$ for a Garrett!!!
I have read about a couple failures on here and I can't believe there arent any in stock anywhere! It would be nice to have them $$$$ for a Garrett!!!
turbo on B/O
... The saga continues. The dealer reported yesterday that the intake tubes were the root cause. I told them the turbo spun a bearing, they said the tubes were the root casue. Today I got the call after the tubes were all replaced that the turbine came apart and the turbo was smoked... "no kidding". The dealer ordered the unit and were told by GM that there are only 2 turbo's in the US and they are slated for cars so I have to wait. GM couldnt even give them a expect date!!!!
Now I am wondering which side came apart and where did the blades go?? The service rep didnt know. I already have 900 miles on my loaner!
Now I am wondering which side came apart and where did the blades go?? The service rep didnt know. I already have 900 miles on my loaner!
I hope 1 of those 2 will be the one that I was told today will arrive next friday at the dealer to be installed in my SS. My var has already been there 2 weeks and looks like it may be another 2 at this rate. This loaner malibu is uncomfortable, I need my armrest back, starting to get pressure sores from leaning on the console.
I just leaned on one all week end with no sore arm.


