All New HHR Owner's Check This!
My appologies for bringing the topic back up; I know better than to engage in religious discussions in fora like this!
BTW, glad I had my belt on and my suspenders. Last night while walking in the dark, when it was raining and all the street lights were out, my suspenders broke. Had I not had my belt on too, my pants might have fallen down around my ankles!
BTW, glad I had my belt on and my suspenders. Last night while walking in the dark, when it was raining and all the street lights were out, my suspenders broke. Had I not had my belt on too, my pants might have fallen down around my ankles!
For the love of God, any messages related to the airbag system need to be followed up with more than a "well, the problem went away after I pushed in all these fuses that seemed loose". Especially when it popped three codes in the system.
For all the owners that are claiming these middle-of-the-night scenarios, how about taking your cars into the dealership so that whatever problems can be documented and followed up on by the system? If this is SUCH a widespread problem, surely it serves the public interest to have your vehicles examined?
For all the owners that are claiming these middle-of-the-night scenarios, how about taking your cars into the dealership so that whatever problems can be documented and followed up on by the system? If this is SUCH a widespread problem, surely it serves the public interest to have your vehicles examined?
Just MO.
Ken.
I disagree. If checking the fuses on a car that has been reported to have a loose fuse problem, fixes that problem, then what is wrong with this? I'm not one to dis the dealer, but they are not all geniuses, nor are they all honest. If reseating fuses fixes the problem, then why belabor the point? If the problem persists, then you ought to take it in.
Just MO.
Ken.
Just MO.
Ken.

Great info on this site!
Electrical Went Berserk!
Reference images of fuse box/little red post thingy:
Started getting sporadic warnings - ESC, air bags, service engine light, Traction control, etc.. Also radio off prior to start would make a rythmic thumping sound. When I tried to start the vehicle it sounded like the starter pinion was engaging, disengaging, re-engaging. Eventually it would start but sounded like hell. Seemed to be running OK once started. Checked battery OK. Did some research and found likely suspect in a TSB about the fuse block connections going bad.
Here's what I found:
There is a hot lead(positive) post adjacent to the underhood fuse block that is used for attaching jumper cables. Tried to remove the red cover at the hot lead post and it wouldn't move. Pushed a little harder and it kinda broke off at the hinge. Under the cover I found the positive post attached to a lug from the fuse block, with two positive cables attached. The post retaining nut was loose, hence the cables were loose and making intermitent contact with the fuse block connection. The base of the positive post cover had melted from the heat generated by the bad connection. I cleaned all the electrical connections with a wire brush/scotch brite, coated everything with dielectric grease and reassembled nice and snug. Also put a second retaining nut on the post to act as a jamb nut to prevent any future loosening. I'm gonna take it to the dealer to show them the faulty area so it will be documented, just in case the jerky starting scenario caused any damage to the starter pinion/flywheel ring gear.
I know this is a long post, but I'm hoping it will save someone else some heartache.
Started getting sporadic warnings - ESC, air bags, service engine light, Traction control, etc.. Also radio off prior to start would make a rythmic thumping sound. When I tried to start the vehicle it sounded like the starter pinion was engaging, disengaging, re-engaging. Eventually it would start but sounded like hell. Seemed to be running OK once started. Checked battery OK. Did some research and found likely suspect in a TSB about the fuse block connections going bad.
Here's what I found:
There is a hot lead(positive) post adjacent to the underhood fuse block that is used for attaching jumper cables. Tried to remove the red cover at the hot lead post and it wouldn't move. Pushed a little harder and it kinda broke off at the hinge. Under the cover I found the positive post attached to a lug from the fuse block, with two positive cables attached. The post retaining nut was loose, hence the cables were loose and making intermitent contact with the fuse block connection. The base of the positive post cover had melted from the heat generated by the bad connection. I cleaned all the electrical connections with a wire brush/scotch brite, coated everything with dielectric grease and reassembled nice and snug. Also put a second retaining nut on the post to act as a jamb nut to prevent any future loosening. I'm gonna take it to the dealer to show them the faulty area so it will be documented, just in case the jerky starting scenario caused any damage to the starter pinion/flywheel ring gear.
I know this is a long post, but I'm hoping it will save someone else some heartache.
Excellent discovery.....my hat is off to you
Many on this forum still hold to the "loose fuse" theory, even thougfh it can not physically happen. Generally, pushing on the "loose" fuses reconnects the 2 piece fuse box. Thus, providing false evidence the fuses are the problem.

Many on this forum still hold to the "loose fuse" theory, even thougfh it can not physically happen. Generally, pushing on the "loose" fuses reconnects the 2 piece fuse box. Thus, providing false evidence the fuses are the problem.
may i make a request
to make atleast the 1st couple post
in this thread from back in 2005 or 2006
a stickie of some kind.
I have poked around this forum for a while
and i never saw this, Maybe i need to go off the deep
end more often and see the old threads.
Gonna check my fuses under hood tomorrow ~
Ok. . immma going back the rock i crawled out from
under
Dw~
to make atleast the 1st couple post
in this thread from back in 2005 or 2006
a stickie of some kind.
I have poked around this forum for a while
and i never saw this, Maybe i need to go off the deep
end more often and see the old threads.
Gonna check my fuses under hood tomorrow ~
Ok. . immma going back the rock i crawled out from
under
Dw~
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