What`s your problem I never said it was ok to be under the influence of any drug or alcohol and do anything wrong.Were do you see that I condone any thing that they did.You are reading something else into what I SAID and going off on a rant and personal attack.

I gave you the facts the company has the right to fire them but they will all get there jobs back.The news team should have called the police like I said then they could have been charged and searched.Did you miss the part in the news video that they were filming them doing this for 10 days.

 

I am well aware of the 10 days of filming in a public park.


Every other employer will fire you on the spot if you come back from lunch smelling of pot or beer.

My employer is rather lenient on the whole thing, as long as you can do your job they don't care what you do after work. But they have fired guys that came back from lunch with an obvious buzz.

What I have an issue with is defending the indefensible. Most of these guys appeared to be at least in their 30's, it's time to grow up and act like an adult.

The only thing that Fox news should have done is blurred their faces.

 

They may get their jobs back but I doubt it. The UAW already confirmed that they agreed with the decision to fire them. Time will tell. Some will more than likely hire lawyers. Kind of stupid in todays job market that one would take a chance doing what they did, not to mention loss of medical coverage and pensions. If anything, Chrysler and others car manufacturers may now change some policies about doing more random drug/alcohol testing on their employees due to this incident. It goes on at more places than just Jefferson North. There is always someone that thinks they can beat the system. Toughest part may have been when they told their wife they just got fired for drinking/smoking pot on the job.

 

Nice discussion. Let's not get personal with it. Thanks.

 

'K.

This whole thing just gets me wound. sorry.

 

I learned early on that you can go back and delete your posts. comes in handy sometimes.

 

I'm getting laughs in every thread I view tonight.

 

In a shop, drinking or smoking pot at lunch is automatic termination. Doesn't matter what amount is consumed. It shouldn't be any different at a auto plant. It will be interesting to see who calls and who folds in the next rounds.

 

I stand behind whatever I post, even if it makes me look foolish. Everyone makes mistakes, it's how you deal with them that determines your maturity.

 

In todays paper:

Lawyer David Deluzio, who also specializes in employment law, said the dismissals were “obviously driven by media coverage and a public relations crisis.”

Deluzio said much of the public and media outcry is based on assumptions by people who don’t have all the facts.

“Everyone seems to have an opinion but very few people, except for those involved, have all of the facts of the case.

“It’s not as if they were drinking on the job, on company property or that they were coming to work intoxicated,” said Deluzio. “It had supposedly been going on for 10 days so how impaired could they have been if nobody noticed?”

The fact the workers’ transgressions were filmed, shown on television and became an instant viral hit on the Internet meant Chrysler had little choice but to act in a very public way, said Nesseth.

But for Deluzio this raises an issue of due process.

“Dismissal usually follows progressive discipline unless it’s for such things as theft or assault, so there’s that issue to begin with,” said Deluzio. “And when I hear company spokespeople say they’ve suspended people while they conduct a full investigation and then fire people a day or so later, it raises the issue of how complete an investigation was actually conducted. “It tells me their mind was already made up.”

As far as allegations of marijuana use are concerned, Deluzio said that’s a criminal matter and there remains a presumption of innocence until they’re found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.