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R.I.P. Pontiac

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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Pontiac was always GM's experimental car.
Remember the Fiero? (I kinda miss that doughnut machine actually).

I wonder what will happen to the Vibe?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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that is sad..we absolutely love our Torrent GXP and I want a G8
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Actually Pontiac was started as what GM called a companion marque.

The Pontiac brand was introduced by General Motors in 1926 as the 'companion' marque to GM's Oakland Motor Car line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac#History

All of the major brands had a companion marque, sort of a step up. You can't afford a Oakland get a Pontiac and get the Oakland the next time.

The interesting this is all the companion marques failed as did some of the step up brands except for Pontiac.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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The Vibe is a Toyota, and will live on as the Matrix.

My Grandmother had Pontiacs... a '50, a '56 and, my favorite, a '60 Ventura. My Dad "helped" her order it. He he... It was a black two-door hardtop, with the 389, a four-bbl carb, dual exhausts, and posi-traction. It was a king-sized GTO four years before the fact!

We all loved that car. I was 13 when my Grandmother sold it. ***sniff***
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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R.I.P. Pontiac

I guess I'd better start getting all the parts I can for my 41 coupe.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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I just don't understand why they would kill Pontiac and not GMC? GMC is a duplicate brand!! Besides, at least around here in the mid-west, you see Pontiacs everywhere! I thought the G6 was one of GM's best selling cars?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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I think Pontiac sales are the lowest of the main core divisions.

As for GMC, I think GM should keep GMC and let the Buick/GMC dealers sell them and stop selling trucks through the Chevy dealers. I'm sure GM sells many more Chevys than Buicks and they need to give the Buick dealers something to sell.

If they close a bunch of dealers then the per dealer sales should increase at Chevy and they could afford to let the Buick/GMC dealers have the trucks and have 2 sets of dealers that can survive.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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GMC make profit and make a big profit per unit sold. It is one of the most profitable division GM has.

They take a Chevy truck add a few small cosmetic changes and charge a higher price on a already profitable line.

Pontiac is not making much profit and with cutting fleet sales of the G5 and G6 it will take a real hit this year in profits. With out fleet sales the G6 is dead in the water. Fleet sales have killed GP prices and will kill resale on G6 too.

How many here have bought a Pontiac in the last 8 years new? Not many. I have and had to move to Chevy to get my performance fix.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by edwinalink
I understand...

but i want a camaro based trans am SO BADLY!!!

Cant we just have one?
Nope as the Camaro alone will have a hard time meeting its needed sales volume even under a good economy. [They need 100,000 units per year].

Having a sister TA would just cost more money to develope and for the most part just rob Camaro sales.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Get rid of every other brand. They never should have killed Olds or started Saturn.
Bought my last Olds in 2003 (granted it is a Silhouette, but its the family car), and it has been almost trouble free for 100,000 miles.

Funny or odd thing is, in the year or two before Olds was killed, they had several new models or very recently updated models.

Same thing with Saturn today-the "oldest" model is probably the Aura (three years old now). As a division, Saturn probably has the newest lineup, yet it is getting killed off.

As for Pontiac, I briefly considered an '07 Grand Prix, but decided an HHR would be more fun. My cousin had an '72 Le Mans - that was an awesome muscle car. The last decade or so, they have been sorta lame-and most recently with dumb names G*. Chevy could cherry pick the Vibe (replace or position above the Aveo), or better yet the G8 as the "new" Impala.



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