R.I.P. Pontiac
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Joined: 10-31-2007
Posts: 42
From: SW Michigan
Buicks, let them rot
Quote: Buick is the only american made car that consistently meet the JD power customer survey for customer satisfaction and, does that almost every year.
Kill Buick? GM won't do that, for sure.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to break a car that never exceeds 45mph! Look around folks, the Buicks are owned by the very aged and they just are too paranoid not to follow their dealers advise with earlier than normal servicing. No damn wonder they are rated so high, you gotta drive a car to break it.
As for the death of Pontiac, there will never be another company with the drive for the younger market like they did through the years. Their focus was always on performance and not trying to please the blue-hairs. Sure they had the wagons and sedans, but the things were solid and fast. The best thing about the old Pontiacs is that never seem to run out of steam. We had a '66 Bonneville ragtop when I was growing up and my older brother and I took that beast down a two lane highway until the speedo needle disappeared into the lower trim. God I miss those days........
Kill Buick? GM won't do that, for sure.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to break a car that never exceeds 45mph! Look around folks, the Buicks are owned by the very aged and they just are too paranoid not to follow their dealers advise with earlier than normal servicing. No damn wonder they are rated so high, you gotta drive a car to break it.
As for the death of Pontiac, there will never be another company with the drive for the younger market like they did through the years. Their focus was always on performance and not trying to please the blue-hairs. Sure they had the wagons and sedans, but the things were solid and fast. The best thing about the old Pontiacs is that never seem to run out of steam. We had a '66 Bonneville ragtop when I was growing up and my older brother and I took that beast down a two lane highway until the speedo needle disappeared into the lower trim. God I miss those days........
Senior Member
Joined: 02-16-2009
Posts: 6,038
From: Frankenmuth/Flint, MI
My family has only owned 2 Pontiacs, and I will say they don't seem to be the world's greatest cars...
We had a 2000 Grand Prix, that was JUNK! But we found out later that we did literally buy it from a junk yard unintentionally...so maybe that's why that was bad.
My mom's current G6 is a decent car, but seems somewhat cheeply made. We hardly ever use the back doors in the car, and the one day I was getting out, the door handle came out in my hand. They didn't bolt it in in the factory. I've had the weatherstripping fall out while washing it, and plastic panels down by the shifter have fallen out a couple times while driving. Nice looking little car, but it has it's flaws... Oh, and it gets nowhere near the 33mpg it's supposed to..
But I still don't think Pontiac should go!
We had a 2000 Grand Prix, that was JUNK! But we found out later that we did literally buy it from a junk yard unintentionally...so maybe that's why that was bad.
My mom's current G6 is a decent car, but seems somewhat cheeply made. We hardly ever use the back doors in the car, and the one day I was getting out, the door handle came out in my hand. They didn't bolt it in in the factory. I've had the weatherstripping fall out while washing it, and plastic panels down by the shifter have fallen out a couple times while driving. Nice looking little car, but it has it's flaws... Oh, and it gets nowhere near the 33mpg it's supposed to..
But I still don't think Pontiac should go!
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Joined: 07-05-2008
Posts: 5,464
From: Akron Ohio
Olds and Saturn improvments came much too late. People did not come to buy as they were not conviced of the improvments.
Note the G8 would be branded as a Caprice if anyting. Holden already sells it in the middle east as a Caprice so building that would be very easy.
Note Impala sales are still good with the cheap prices and fleet sales so it will remain on the W chassie for a while. GM would like to replace it with a new enlarged Epsilon 2.
With car sales so stagnet it will be interesting if they will shift any models or not.
The G8 is profitable and needed at Holden to keep volume up. GM can import them in small numbers and make money on them. They would be crazy to not do it but it depends on what they can afford.
The other question is if they kill Pontiac on Monday how long will it take to close it down too. If could be anything from weeks to years.
Note the G8 would be branded as a Caprice if anyting. Holden already sells it in the middle east as a Caprice so building that would be very easy.
Note Impala sales are still good with the cheap prices and fleet sales so it will remain on the W chassie for a while. GM would like to replace it with a new enlarged Epsilon 2.
With car sales so stagnet it will be interesting if they will shift any models or not.
The G8 is profitable and needed at Holden to keep volume up. GM can import them in small numbers and make money on them. They would be crazy to not do it but it depends on what they can afford.
The other question is if they kill Pontiac on Monday how long will it take to close it down too. If could be anything from weeks to years.
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Joined: 11-23-2007
Posts: 8,210
From: Texas
This is a cool site on Pontiacs. Looks like the split grille goes back at least to 1929.
http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Pontiac/
http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Pontiac/