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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tireman1554
True. The point I am making is that a 195/60r-15 Goodyear will not only fit a Cavalier but also a BMW wich in turn causes the consumer to be misinformed when searching for tires, or even information about tires on the internet. The manufacturers have their own criteria as to what meets their standards for UTQG ratings. UTQG has a minimum number for what tires MUST perform and once they pass that minimum standard the manufacturer can print anything they want on the tire sidewall. Mileage warranties ARE NOT set by the tire manufacturer they are put on the tires by the DEALERS as a selling feature.
Agreed... .....BTW...Looking around, it looks like we have a handful of tire busters...lol...A tire person that actually knows about tires is a rare breed now a days.....Computers tell the "kids" at the chain stores what to sell now...and most couldn't tell you a thing about them......lol...............Regards

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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I think the Firestones that came on my '06 are crap.I can't wait for them to wear out so I can put a set of Michelin HydroEdge tires on it.Heck,depending on my taxes this year,I might not wait that long.Here in the deep South,I don't need tires that can handle snow...only rain.
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Great tire, but you honestly should try the Goodyear Responsedge. This tire features a Kevlar overlay for a smooth quiet ride, and a Carbon Fiber sidewall for handling characteristics. I have run Michelin Tires on just about every vehicle in my 20+ years in the industry and I can tell you the Goodyear outperforms the Michelin in all categories; Hands Down! I recently put a set on my HHR and I cant believe how these tires handle.
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tireman1554
Great tire, but you honestly should try the Goodyear Responsedge. This tire features a Kevlar overlay for a smooth quiet ride, and a Carbon Fiber sidewall for handling characteristics. I have run Michelin Tires on just about every vehicle in my 20+ years in the industry and I can tell you the Goodyear outperforms the Michelin in all categories; Hands Down! I recently put a set on my HHR and I cant believe how these tires handle.
Thanks for the input...however,from what I have just finished reading I think the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred might be a better choice for me.They have some really good reviews and cost about the same as the Michelins.http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nce+TripleTred
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Has anyone tried to put on larger tires on the back with wider tread. I know most people like the new ricey, low thing. But I think some old time E50's white letter and some big honking G60's white letters would look like the old time hot rods. What does everyone think. Please be nice, I'm old and never grew up!
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sicpuppy
Has anyone tried to put on larger tires on the back with wider tread. I know most people like the new ricey, low thing. But I think some old time E50's white letter and some big honking G60's white letters would look like the old time hot rods. What does everyone think. Please be nice, I'm old and never grew up!
You can't go much larger in back due to space restrictions. The inner fenderwell protrudes in a couple of places. I went with 225-50/17's which are about a 1/2-inch taller than stock, and that's as big as you can go in diameter. Also, to go with the 50's you are suggesting, you would need to drop down to a 15" rim, and could possibly run into clearance issues with the front disc brake calipers.

Just a few things to think about.
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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I just replaced those damn Firestones about a week ago...They were the worst tires I've ever owned!! Hydroplaned all the time...and never got traction in the snow...Because I dont have ABS or traction control, i decided to go with a really good tire. I bought Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread. They are rated at 80k miles...claim to be really good in snow, rain, and dry. They are high performance tires, cause i like to have fun when i drive! So far i love them, i dont hydroplane anymore...and the snow...wow...i get so much more traction!!! They are a little bit of a harder rubber, so it wont ride as smooth as the Firestones...and they are a little pricey....the cheapest i found was $147 per tire..that of course included mouting and stuff.... a total price of $623.00 was paid. But they were worth every penny... The tire shop that i bought them from said they only had 1 other tire that was better...and it was a Michelin...
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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After looking at the link provided about the tire and its mileage, I am realizing I know little about tires. Why is the same exact tire rated at 50000 miles on an HHR, but at 80000 on a Malibu, and 60000 on a Saturn. YET, they all carry the same gov't rating of 500, which should be a really really long lasting tire. My previous cars had govt treadware ratings from as low as 180 up to 320, so when I saw that the HHR had a 500 I assumed (WRONG!) that it would be a very long wearing tire..but like I say only 50K on an HHR but 80K on most other cars..what does the HHR have that makes it wear so much faster?
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickh
After looking at the link provided about the tire and its mileage, I am realizing I know little about tires. Why is the same exact tire rated at 50000 miles on an HHR, but at 80000 on a Malibu, and 60000 on a Saturn. YET, they all carry the same gov't rating of 500, which should be a really really long lasting tire. My previous cars had govt treadware ratings from as low as 180 up to 320, so when I saw that the HHR had a 500 I assumed (WRONG!) that it would be a very long wearing tire..but like I say only 50K on an HHR but 80K on most other cars..what does the HHR have that makes it wear so much faster?
The manufacturers have their own criteria as to what meets their standards for UTQG ratings. UTQG has a minimum number for what tires MUST perform and once they pass that minimum standard the manufacturer can print anything they want on the tire sidewall. Mileage warranties ARE NOT set by the tire manufacturer they are put on the tires by the DEALERS as a selling feature.
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