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2006 HHR Died on interstate Stuck in gear oil in engine

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Let us know what he finds out. So sorry for your troubles. That no fun having issues like that.
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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My guess is a transmission cooling line going to the radiator/trans cooler ruptured. This would account for both the oil all over and the high revving with no forward progress. If things weren't overheated too badly it may only require a repair of the line and refilling the trans. If it was run for any length of time with low fluid the outcome may be more grim.

The color of fluid is not always apparent unless it is against a light colored surface. And it may not be all that red if it hasn't been changed recently...
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 63falcondriver
My guess is a transmission cooling line going to the radiator/trans cooler ruptured. This would account for both the oil all over and the high revving with no forward progress. If things weren't overheated too badly it may only require a repair of the line and refilling the trans. If it was run for any length of time with low fluid the outcome may be more grim.

The color of fluid is not always apparent unless it is against a light colored surface. And it may not be all that red if it hasn't been changed recently...
My thoughts exactly, unfortunately it sounds like the transmission may be toast.
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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The engine cut off after the RPM's spiked. We pulled off waited 10min and tried to start it again. The engine did not attempt to turn over but the fan on the radiator continued to run.
This is the part that would worry me. "The engine did not attempt to turn over"
Overreved the engine and now it won't even turn over.= Does not look good.
Blew fluids all over the engine.= Does not look good at all.
Sorry, but it looks like it could be terminal. First thing I would check for is to see if the engine seized up. Hopefully not.
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Over-revving is a possibility, but the rev limiter on the 2.2/2.4 "is supposed to" cut in at 6,600 rpm. I believe that if the transmission is overheated beyond a certain point, the ECM will prevent re-starting the engine, but I have to check the manuals in the morning.
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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The engine cut off after the RPM's spiked. We pulled off waited 10min and tried to start it again. The engine did not attempt to turn over but the fan on the radiator continued to run.
What does the engine "dipstick" read for an oil level ?

& the fan is electric, & if engine is hot, it can run for a while after engine is off...
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Ok so my dad said the shop put a breaker bar on the engine and couldn't get it to turn over. They drained the oil and said it had around 5qts in it. They think it could possibly be an engine bearing but that still doesn't explain the fluid all over the lower engine compartment. I still think its the transmission. So I told my dad to have them put a computer on it and see if they could pull any codes. I'm wondering if its this rev-limiter. I will let you know what I find out.
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper
What does the engine "dipstick" read for an oil level ?
That was my question as well.

Originally Posted by addison5429
Ok so my dad said the shop put a breaker bar on the engine and couldn't get it to turn over. They drained the oil and said it had around 5qts in it. They think it could possibly be an engine bearing but that still doesn't explain the fluid all over the lower engine compartment. I still think its the transmission. So I told my dad to have them put a computer on it and see if they could pull any codes. I'm wondering if its this rev-limiter. I will let you know what I find out.
It doesn't take a lot of oil to coat everything in a situation like this. Half a qt can make a huge mess in an enging bay. But I'm still wondering why the tranny would shift or accelerate. Might be combination of oil and hyd fluid.
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by addison5429
Ok so my dad said the shop put a breaker bar on the engine and couldn't get it to turn over. They drained the oil and said it had around 5qts in it. They think it could possibly be an engine bearing but that still doesn't explain the fluid all over the lower engine compartment. I still think its the transmission. So I told my dad to have them put a computer on it and see if they could pull any codes. I'm wondering if its this rev-limiter. I will let you know what I find out.
" Put a computer on it and see if they could pull any codes" is going to be a waste of time.
If the shop put a breaker bar on the engine and couldn't get it to turn over, then you're looking at serious internal damage. In other words, it sounds like it "seized up". Time for a rebuild at minimum or a new/used engine.
And worse yet, you could also be looking at a bad transmission too. Sorry, but based on what you've stated so far, it sounds like the transmission died and took the engine with it. Unfortunate, but very possible
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Still no word from the shop so I assume the engine is dead and gone

Originally Posted by firemangeorge
" Put a computer on it and see if they could pull any codes" is going to be a waste of time.
If the shop put a breaker bar on the engine and couldn't get it to turn over, then you're looking at serious internal damage. In other words, it sounds like it "seized up". Time for a rebuild at minimum or a new/used engine.
And worse yet, you could also be looking at a bad transmission too. Sorry, but based on what you've stated so far, it sounds like the transmission died and took the engine with it. Unfortunate, but very possible
Well if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all I guess.

I've started a search for a good used engine and tranny. I think I sourced an engine with 23,000 on it for $1000 delivered Which I think is a steal. However I am still looking for a transmission. I am not really looking to spend more than $1500 on it because I would hate for him to put the same amount of money he paid for the car into a new motor and transmission.

Thank you all for all your help!



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