Engine Removal step by step
11-17-2017, 12:00 PM
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Engine Removal step by step
My engine hoist finially came today..
Figured, I’d ask, I’m doing a removal of the block from the top blindly..
anyone have a step by step write up procedure for removal?
Figured, I’d ask, I’m doing a removal of the block from the top blindly..
anyone have a step by step write up procedure for removal?
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11-17-2017, 12:08 PM
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Doubt there is a step by step. As stated before the engine is designed to be removed via engine cradle removal out the bottom.
Granted, there may be some "backyard wrenches" that have yanked them out the top. Wouldn't think they wrote down any step by steps.
Granted, there may be some "backyard wrenches" that have yanked them out the top. Wouldn't think they wrote down any step by steps.
11-17-2017, 02:29 PM
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My advice would be:
remove the negative wire from the battery
Remove the hood
move the fuse box disconnecting the exterior battery connection
remove the exhaust pipe from the header
unplug the O2 sensors
probably best to remove the header, it is a metal gasket low torque bolts
disconnect the harness from the ECM and the TCM disconnect any holders between (might need to disconnect the harness from the trans)
disconnect the ground straps
remove the crank pulley and belt tensioner
put a jack with a board on it under the oil pan
remove the motor mount
remove all the bolts holding the transmission on
You might need to remove the coolant pipe and t-stat housing
attach the hoist to the lift hook and put a strap around the engine
Then get a helper to help push and pull whilst lifting
Be careful with the torque converter, a good idea to drain ALL fluids first and provide for errant drips
I don't know when or how to unbolt the torque converter.
I probably forgot something.
Take pictures of everything you remove
When you get everything back together the CEL will be on, code p0315 means you have to go to a shop that knows how to relearn the crankshaft sensor. it is safe to drive a limited amount
remove the negative wire from the battery
Remove the hood
move the fuse box disconnecting the exterior battery connection
remove the exhaust pipe from the header
unplug the O2 sensors
probably best to remove the header, it is a metal gasket low torque bolts
disconnect the harness from the ECM and the TCM disconnect any holders between (might need to disconnect the harness from the trans)
disconnect the ground straps
remove the crank pulley and belt tensioner
put a jack with a board on it under the oil pan
remove the motor mount
remove all the bolts holding the transmission on
You might need to remove the coolant pipe and t-stat housing
attach the hoist to the lift hook and put a strap around the engine
Then get a helper to help push and pull whilst lifting
Be careful with the torque converter, a good idea to drain ALL fluids first and provide for errant drips
I don't know when or how to unbolt the torque converter.
I probably forgot something.
Take pictures of everything you remove
When you get everything back together the CEL will be on, code p0315 means you have to go to a shop that knows how to relearn the crankshaft sensor. it is safe to drive a limited amount
Last edited by donbrew; 11-17-2017 at 03:06 PM.
11-17-2017, 03:12 PM
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You're going to have to separate the AC comp. from the engine before hoisting out the engine.
Haven't looked on a HHR but looks like space is limited. Option 2 would be to bleed down the AC system and disconnect the lines.
Swapped out many engines back in my mechanic days. AC systems in the way were always a pain.
Haven't looked on a HHR but looks like space is limited. Option 2 would be to bleed down the AC system and disconnect the lines.
Swapped out many engines back in my mechanic days. AC systems in the way were always a pain.
11-18-2017, 08:10 AM
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When I removed my engine (out the bottom) I removed the radiator, unbolted the AC compressor without disconnecting any AC lines, and used bungees to hold it out of the way where the radiator was.
Also, note (take pictures) of all wiring harness routing as there are several places where the wiring snakes through and around components. I disconnected the wires from all points on the engine and left the harness on the car. The wiring disconnect and connect was actually the most time consuming part of pulling and reinstalling the engine.
I was considering pulling my engine out the top. The only youtube video I found of an HHR engine going out the top was useless. They filmed it with the camera pointing at the front of the HHR about 3 feet off the ground. No video or pics inside the engine compartment. Just an engine being lowered into the car and a buch of guys leaning over the car working in the engine compartment.
If you are leaving the trans on the car, you will probably have to angle the engine/trans enough to be able to pull the engine away from the trans without hitting the strut tower.
Steve
Also, note (take pictures) of all wiring harness routing as there are several places where the wiring snakes through and around components. I disconnected the wires from all points on the engine and left the harness on the car. The wiring disconnect and connect was actually the most time consuming part of pulling and reinstalling the engine.
I was considering pulling my engine out the top. The only youtube video I found of an HHR engine going out the top was useless. They filmed it with the camera pointing at the front of the HHR about 3 feet off the ground. No video or pics inside the engine compartment. Just an engine being lowered into the car and a buch of guys leaning over the car working in the engine compartment.
If you are leaving the trans on the car, you will probably have to angle the engine/trans enough to be able to pull the engine away from the trans without hitting the strut tower.
Steve
11-18-2017, 10:06 AM
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Got the crank bolt off.. I had to use heat on it..
The non discharged AC is roped forward into or close by loosened radiators that are leaning forwardly.. Tell me what to do about the torque converter bolts - need to be removed? By the way do I have to line up the ring gear or can the block just be put in place as it goes.... I have the starter out and on the new block.. Ive labeled all connections.. Got 2 hard to reach bolts left to unscrew.- under t-stat manifold..
The non discharged AC is roped forward into or close by loosened radiators that are leaning forwardly.. Tell me what to do about the torque converter bolts - need to be removed? By the way do I have to line up the ring gear or can the block just be put in place as it goes.... I have the starter out and on the new block.. Ive labeled all connections.. Got 2 hard to reach bolts left to unscrew.- under t-stat manifold..
Last edited by Scouttster; 11-19-2017 at 07:00 PM.