Noise when starting the car....
Ah, that's makes some sense now.
Think about it.
What happens when the belt stretches past the point at which the spring in the tensioner can keep the belt tight? During startup there's inertia in the system resisting the belts motion. Since the tensioner is trying to keep the belt taught and can't due to being near the end of its stroke (resulting in minimal spring tension) the tensioner slaps its limit stop repeatably until everything is moving smoothly. Thus being the momentary clattering noise we hear.
Just a theory, I could be wrong but based on your experience it makes sense to me.
Think about it.
What happens when the belt stretches past the point at which the spring in the tensioner can keep the belt tight? During startup there's inertia in the system resisting the belts motion. Since the tensioner is trying to keep the belt taught and can't due to being near the end of its stroke (resulting in minimal spring tension) the tensioner slaps its limit stop repeatably until everything is moving smoothly. Thus being the momentary clattering noise we hear.
Just a theory, I could be wrong but based on your experience it makes sense to me.
Mine will sometimes rattle if it sits for a couple days without running. Has done this pretty much since new.
Makes me wonder if maybe there is 2 seperate issues with almost identical noises.
Ah, that's makes some sense now.
Think about it.
What happens when the belt stretches past the point at which the spring in the tensioner can keep the belt tight? During startup there's inertia in the system resisting the belts motion. Since the tensioner is trying to keep the belt taught and can't due to being near the end of its stroke (resulting in minimal spring tension) the tensioner slaps its limit stop repeatably until everything is moving smoothly. Thus being the momentary clattering noise we hear.
Just a theory, I could be wrong but based on your experience it makes sense to me.
Think about it.
What happens when the belt stretches past the point at which the spring in the tensioner can keep the belt tight? During startup there's inertia in the system resisting the belts motion. Since the tensioner is trying to keep the belt taught and can't due to being near the end of its stroke (resulting in minimal spring tension) the tensioner slaps its limit stop repeatably until everything is moving smoothly. Thus being the momentary clattering noise we hear.
Just a theory, I could be wrong but based on your experience it makes sense to me.
Here is a Video of the noise - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGee4D2qtM
Here is the TSB....
GM issued a TSB explaining that the belts where too long and after a few thousand miles the noise would appear. I bought my HHR at 37K and it was there since the purchase day. I could have had the dealer Replace it, But I wasn't driving 40 miles to get it fixed.. Did it myself, got the belt From Advance Auto Parts...
#PIP4716: Sharp Engine Noise At Start Ecotec RPOs - LAF LAP LAT LNF LE5 LE8 LE9 - (Oct 1, 2009)
Subject: Sharp Engine Noise At Start Ecotec RPO's-LAF LAP LAT LNF LE5 LE8 LE9
Models: 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt
With RPO LAP 2.2L, LNF 2.0L
AND
2009 Chevrolet HHR
With RPO LNF 2.0L, LE8 2.2L, LE9 2.4L
AND
2009 Pontiac G5
With RPO LAP 2.2L
AND
2009 Chevrolet Malibu
2009 Pontiac G6
2009 Pontiac Solstice
2009 Saturn Sky
2009 Saturn Aura
2009 Saturn Vue
With RPO LE5 2.4L
AND
2009 Saturn AURA Hybrid
2009 Saturn VUE Hybrid
2009-2010 Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
With RPO LAT 2.4L
AND
2010 Chevrolet Equinox
2010 GMC Terrain
With RPO LAF 2.4L SIDI
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
In rare instances a technician may comment they hear a short, sharp rattle noise from the front of the engine on start up.
Recommendation/Instructions:
If the noise is from the front accessory drive area, inspect the engine belt. We have seen concerns with engine belts causing a loud ticking type noise. If found, verify power steering pulley outer edge is aligned flush with shaft and repair as needed. If pulley alignment is correct replace the engine belt.
If the noise is still present and is very short and sharp in duration (2-5 seconds) This may be an issue with the cam phasers not parking properly. Once the noise is verified as the phasers, they must be replaced. If the cam phasers are replaced, remove the CMP actuator solenoids to inspect for debris. If debris is found clean and inspect for torn or loose screens and replace if necessary.
Note: If debris is found in the solenoids and phasers change the oil and filter before returning to service, in some instances it may be necessary to change the oil/filter multiple times with a test drive in between each. The filter and solenoids can be inspected afterwards to ensure no additional debris is present.
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