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Lowering Springs Totally Collapsed-HELP

Old Apr 5, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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FE5 ball joints are easy to find, just order the complete LCA’s from GM and Make sure to confirm the part number in our common part number list
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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[QUOTE=whopper;863966]As Oldblue says "that would not effect the springs, ride height, or the bottoming out.". [/QUOTE}

a loose ball ball joint could cause problems with the motion ratio of the suspension affecting how much spring pressure it takes to suspend the vehicle .
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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[QUOTE=wildherre;863999]
Originally Posted by whopper
As Oldblue says "that would not effect the springs, ride height, or the bottoming out.". [/QUOTE}

a loose ball ball joint could cause problems with the motion ratio of the suspension affecting how much spring pressure it takes to suspend the vehicle .
The vehicle is not moving while they are looking at the spring-to-strut relationship, nor while measuring at the fenderwell. No motion, no motion ratio.
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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Ball joints have absolutely nothing (zip, zero, nada) to do with the distance from the spring "perch" to the strut bearing!
If the spring is shorter than the OE spring obviously the shock absorber will compress. The shock absorber has very little to do with the height of the car; the springs do that.
Saying that the springs "totally collapse" means that the spring have the wrong rate, and the strut bearing is almost touching the spring "perch".
I think the OP is actually meaning that he expected the "lowering springs" to shorten the length of the static part of the strut rather than the travel of the shock.
The bumpers on some after market struts leave little room for shortening. The OE bumper lives under the boot, most replacement bumpers live above the boot.

OE STRUT



REPLACEMENT STRUT
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
FE5 ball joints are easy to find, just order the complete LCA’s from GM and Make sure to confirm the part number in our common part number list
Buy why can't you just find the ball joint ?
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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[QUOTE=wildherre;863999]
Originally Posted by whopper
As Oldblue says "that would not effect the springs, ride height, or the bottoming out.". [/QUOTE}

a loose ball ball joint could cause problems with the motion ratio of the suspension affecting how much spring pressure it takes to suspend the vehicle .
Sorry but going to have to say this.
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Old Apr 6, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
Buy why can't you just find the ball joint ?
Because Moog does not publish the technical specs anymore (mainly because they are a reseller now, they manufacture pretty boxes not the parts in them). I am sure that someone could take a set of micrometers into a auto parts warehouse and measure every ball joint they could find a fit.

Moog part numbers are still the industry standard. If they don't list a part there is no part number for others to use.
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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[QUOTE=wildherre;863999]
Originally Posted by whopper
As Oldblue says "that would not effect the springs, ride height, or the bottoming out.". [/QUOTE}

a loose ball ball joint could cause problems with the motion ratio of the suspension affecting how much spring pressure it takes to suspend the vehicle .
I'm not too sure how to reply to that. LOL
Old Apr 6, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Because Moog does not publish the technical specs anymore
I know this Blue.
But why isn't there another vendor that sells them ?
Who made these ball joints for GM to start with ?
If it was Moog, why not sell them aftermarket ?

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