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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IgottaWoody
That roller coaster is in my bucket list..............
I tied my lower IC pipe back aqway from the AC compressor...still there and no ,more problems..will go in for perm fix before warrenty is up
Yes tell them to take the bumper cover off and use fender washers to move it out. They do not have to move it far. Everytime you get on the gas hard that connector is pulled up into the AC compressor with the torquing back of the engine.

THe fix was given to me by a GMPD engineer and my dealer did it under warranty. At times I wonder how many of the problems blaimed on the connectors are really this issue. IT is one you would not see on the rack and have to really judge the pull on the engine under a load and the engine lifting up with the load. Not something you can do while under the car.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Man it's getting worse and more constant. I found someone that will be doing the soldering and heat shrink on those connections. I told him that there were connectors. He said that the electronics on newer vehicles are very sensitive and any "ANY" corrosion can offset the volt reference. Connectors after a while will naturally corrode and even faster is it gets wet. From what he said, no vehicle electronics should have those types of connectors because of resistance it creates.
He works for Dodge on Vipers and work for Chevy for 15 years prior to moving to Dodge
Might put pad between the connector and the AC compressor just to make sure it is not hitting. Worth a shot.

As for the connectors. They work fine if install properly. THey shink and seal if done right. That is why they use these also on air bags. soldered joints for the airbag are too much a risk because of fractures.

GM just needed a adapter harness to do it right that is all it would have taken. I would have paid $50 more to have them in the kit.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperv6
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As for the connectors. They work fine if install properly. THey shink and seal if done right. That is why they use these also on air bags. soldered joints for the airbag are too much a risk because of fractures.

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I don't have an SS so have been staying out of these conversations but have been wondering all along how many air bag systems are running around with bad connectors because of this same issue, improperly installed connectors. The same guys replace airbags right? Scary thought.


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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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I don't have an SS so have been staying out of these conversations but have been wondering all along how many air bag systems are running around with bad connectors because of this same issue, improperly installed connectors. The same guys replace airbags right? Scary thought.


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That is something to condsider.

I would expect a bad connection to fare better in the wheel vs next to a hot engine. At least in theroy.
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperv6
Might put pad between the connector and the AC compressor just to make sure it is not hitting. Worth a shot.

As for the connectors. They work fine if install properly. THey shink and seal if done right. That is why they use these also on air bags. soldered joints for the airbag are too much a risk because of fractures.

GM just needed a adapter harness to do it right that is all it would have taken. I would have paid $50 more to have them in the kit.
It's just a "not finished" design. The distance between my connectors and the ac compressor is less than 1/4".

I had my custom shop put it on a lift and go through it and though the connections were finally done solid by the dealer and the dealer used a zip tie to move the IC away from the compressor, it still hits and kills all the power from time to time . . . depending on the amount of traction you get and torque pull from the engine.

I have ordered a more firm upper engine mount from turbotechracing an when I have it installed I'll do the washer trick also to give it some more space.

Hopefully that'll do it.

Still, I guess I'm glad that GM did the upgrade, but not over glad that they didn't think it out completely.

James
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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It's just a "not finished" design. The distance between my connectors and the ac compressor is less than 1/4".

I had my custom shop put it on a lift and go through it and though the connections were finally done solid by the dealer and the dealer used a zip tie to move the IC away from the compressor, it still hits and kills all the power from time to time . . . depending on the amount of traction you get and torque pull from the engine.

I have ordered a more firm upper engine mount from turbotechracing an when I have it installed I'll do the washer trick also to give it some more space.

Hopefully that'll do it.

Still, I guess I'm glad that GM did the upgrade, but not over glad that they didn't think it out completely.

James
The washers will fix it as the pull ties are not enough. Also make sure the hose is all the way on too as it will give clearance.

The engine mount will help but is not need to fix this.

Just anyone fixing this pull ties and pads are not long term fixes so don' let the dealer get away with out moving the IC. It takes a little more time but they will never see you agin.

The IC has just enough variance it can make the boodt drop under accecleration.
Old Aug 29, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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I will see what they can do by Tuesday for the wiring but if they refuse to solder it, we'll do it. I will take pictures before and after.
Old Aug 29, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperv6
The washers will fix it as the pull ties are not enough. Also make sure the hose is all the way on too as it will give clearance.

The engine mount will help but is not need to fix this.

Just anyone fixing this pull ties and pads are not long term fixes so don' let the dealer get away with out moving the IC. It takes a little more time but they will never see you agin.

The IC has just enough variance it can make the boodt drop under accecleration.
I haven't given up on this car yet, but have given up on the dealers in the El Lay area.

I have also given up on general motors being any assistance and it would take twenty seven pages to detail how lame they are.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some very good people at gm, I' just wasn't fortunate to talk to any.

I'm not mad, just don't have the time to talk to "buffy the gm intern who doesn't own a car".

I have another residence in North Texas and my Texas cars will go to the gm manager on this site for service, (when I get back to Dallas), because he obviously has it together.

In LA I've found an old world Rod shop that works on about anything from Cobras, to R32's. The motor mount will come in next week and I'll have him do the washer trick, also some other modifications and tighten up the IC pipe.

In summary I wish I'd never done the gm tune, instead gone to s trifecta or any custom tune, regardless of warranty.

And even though the dealer is somewhat hobbled, you can lay most of this on general motors.

J.
Old Aug 29, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by russruth
I haven't given up on this car yet, but have given up on the dealers in the El Lay area.

I have also given up on general motors being any assistance and it would take twenty seven pages to detail how lame they are.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some very good people at gm, I' just wasn't fortunate to talk to any.

I'm not mad, just don't have the time to talk to "buffy the gm intern who doesn't own a car".

I have another residence in North Texas and my Texas cars will go to the gm manager on this site for service, (when I get back to Dallas), because he obviously has it together.

In LA I've found an old world Rod shop that works on about anything from Cobras, to R32's. The motor mount will come in next week and I'll have him do the washer trick, also some other modifications and tighten up the IC pipe.

In summary I wish I'd never done the gm tune, instead gone to s trifecta or any custom tune, regardless of warranty.

And even though the dealer is somewhat hobbled, you can lay most of this on general motors.

J.
You will get it worked out. I am almost betting it is hitting the AC.

I place the blame in GM tech for not being up to speed on this, I blaime some dealers beause they do not all keep their techs upto date on the new cars and Turbo's. GMPD is who the dealers need to speak to on this not the regular tech line.

GMPD knows this kit but GM tech does not. All I know is I found the problem and GMPD told me how to fix it. The dealer tech did a good job to repair it. A year and a half later we are still fine.
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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As of now the techs are unable to reproduce the issue in the car. Apparently the wires were soldered and moved away from the A/C last time it was in. No moisture found in the connections either.

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