So is there any way to remove the onstar box, and still have the car start and run? I really don't like the fact that the car can be unlocked remotely, but what is far worse is that the engine can be shut down remotely as well. Since it has GPS, it can also be used to track you. And these features can be used by anybody, not just GM. I have watched several videos on Youtube about how to remove the spybox on GM cars without affecting anything important. I have no use for GPS or bluetooth. I have a hand held non smart phone, and use it only when the car is safely parked.

 

I will save all of my tin foil for you.

 

I would be more concerned by the ionic magnetic radiation dispersal array generated by the usage of the HF data bus architecture throughout the whole vehicle, which is obviously DNA altering.

 

I know this is old, but I will post why I am pulling the On Star. In my area, police responded to a domestic dispute at an apartment complex. If you know a PO, this is usually routine. People yell and fight, neighbors get mad about the noise and call the police.

Police showed up as the guy was leaving. Maybe to cool off, maybe to leave for good, who knows. At this time, they had not conducted any investigation. He left, someone yelled that he was leaving and the police made a decision to pursue. NOT standard procedure for a domestic dispute.

The guy drove a FEW minutes. He got on the interstate. The police then decided to escalate further. He was NOT fleeing a crime scene a crime scene, right. Who knows why he ran. They disabled his vehicle on the highway jeopardizing the lives of the public. Ultimately the highway was shut down for hours.

I am not saying I am pulling this because we have ever had a domestic dispute issue or anything. Nor do I think the police will ever be at my home for any reason. I am pulling it because we have some thing called a sixth amendment, and at this time, they lacked probable cause. While not directly related to the 6th amendment, the principle of probable cause is applicable. This is why high speed chases are generally called off (exception suspect fleeing a felony scene). They unnecessarily put the public at risk.

I would rather risk my car being stolen than have the police put myself or my family in harms way without just cause. Disabling OnStar on my vehicle will change nothing. People standing up for their rights and letting others know why is a small, peaceful revolt again unauthorized use of force.

By the way, the force exercised was deadly. The man died.
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Article the sixth... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

Isn't there now an agreement you make with OnStar to allow them to use this with your consent or you can deny them this access. optional choice I believe.

 

They sure got the court order fast.

Seems like either a lot more to the story or it's another hoax. Not accusing anybody of anything.

"By the way, the force exercised was deadly. The man died. " The force of radio waves?

 

That is my point. They had no court order. Vehicle was not stolen. Not a hoax. The man died. He was driving I-95 south bound in Florida. When his vehicle was disabled, he narrowly missed hitting other vehicles. He did not die from the vehicle being disabled. He died because the whole thing kept escalating.The guy obviously had a poor temperament -- hence the DD call. But he did what the police generally would have advised him to do -- leave the scene and cool off. Unfortunately, he left before they told him to do this, and the police failed to just let him go.

The high speed pursuit was unwarranted. Disabling the vehicle jeopardized the public safety. It is like throwing down spikes on the road around a blind curve to stop a speeding vehicle: an illegal action (at least in several states -- perhaps all). Laws are designed to protect the public, and the laws go both ways. We must follow them, and so must those who enforce.

OnStar itself is not bad. It certainly can be a great service. But this has been commandeered. The RF exposure risks of OnStar are minimal. If I recall OnStar operates around 800 mhz. One should not be within about 12 inches of the center of radiation based on their reported dbm/dbi. The ungrounded metal car should help act as a plane to direct RF away from passengers (ungrounded due to rubber on tires, so does not behave like a cage). IMO, an individual is not at a high risk of RF exposure. Of course, I am no longer licensed by the FCC so I no longer stay current on RF exposure ratings which our government recognizes; other governments have different exposure ratings.

Did you know that auto manufacturers have started arguing that when you purchase the vehicle, you do not technically own it? True. Today's Mercedes has over 1 million lines of code written to monitor and control the vehicle. The proprietary nature of this software is being argued in courts around the world to assert that while one may own the vehicle, one cannot own the rights to use the software. The end result could be that the manufacturers maintains rights to this software indefinitely and that an auto owner will be unable to use the vehicle without paying an ongoing licensing fee. Not sure this will hold up over the next 10 years. But it makes me wonder how OnStar is going to be circumvented in the vehicle disabling process in the future.

The people deserve due process. Always. Presumption of innocence is foundational to this nation. Really, even a checkpoint is supposed to not exist without special exceptions. But now, they are setup because they might catch a drunk driver. Backwards thinking. Anyone have been stopped at a "routine checkpoint" in a 3rd world country with automatic weapons pointed at them knows that assumption of innocence does not exist in the country. This stops are unnecessarily intimidating. I hate them and hope to never drive through one again. And I really do not embrace that kind of thinking in the USA. I hope others in this country still think this way too.

 

Damn, I'm kinda glad mine has the optional, Non On-Star system.

 

Have you tried just Removing the On Star Antenna.. ???

I do like the idea of disabling a stolen car. But my CAR, I want to be the Person who makes that decision and does it, like by using my Smart Phone.

Oh, and the same for the Remote door un-lock,,, too many remotes

 

which wire to cut for the gps?