Cat Man HHR

Read this from Eaton Detroit Springs:
https://www.eatondetroitspring.com/r...ight-problems/

firemangeorge

As that article says: "Many years ago, back in the days before high pressure gas shocks"

Point being, many of today's shocks are high pressured gas shocks and can have an effect on ride height.
Why do you think they come with a wire strapped on them to hold them in a collapsed position for shipping.

Cat Man HHR

OK I do remember gas shocks with wire on them but the Delco's I got didn't.
That was more for packaging than anything else.
Are you going to say that a gas shock that can be held down by a piece wire on it and isn't strong enough to brake it, but it can raise the car, which takes a lot for force to do ?
Push down on a brand new gas shock. The force you use to do that doesn't even come close to the force to raise the car.
Read articles on setting ride height of a car and they all talk about springs, I don't care if it's coil over, standard coil or leaf.
Did work on a NASCAR Modified team and when we set ride height always adjusted the springs.
The only way with a shock to do this is with air shocks.
You put lowering springs in your car. Why didn't you just get softer shocks, by your theory, that would have lowered the car.
If you believe in your statement, than be so.

donbrew

More for installation than packaging. I once thought I was smarter than the designer and cut the wire. Had to enlist a 350 lb friend to help get it to fit on the bolts.

Cat Man HHR

WOW! I installed many shocks with no help and I weigh 190.
Sorry Don you did something wrong.
Tell me how you installed a gas shock in the front (or back) that isn't a strut design where you cut the wire and then let it extend before getting into position.
I'll just say GM cars.
This is getting interesting.
Forgive me, I only had/have 50+ years in the automotive industry.

firemangeorge

From shockwarehouse.com

Q. Shocks and struts have a strap on the them to help with installation....
A. The straps serve only one purpose, and that is to fit the unit in the box. All the manufacturers use certain size boxes. If the boxes they use are, say, 20 inches long, and a strut or shock is 29 inches long, that unit will get a strap to compress it to fit in the box. And if the shock is shorter than 20 inches, then a strap is not needed, since it fits in the box with room to spare.

Sure, sometimes they can help with an installation, but that was not the intended use of the strap.

Cat Man HHR

Did you read any of my earlier post's ?
I'm done with this brain beater thread.

donbrew

The friend was used to push the plunger back down so the shock would fit.

It was the first time I replaced only the shock in my struts, I may have been attacking it wrong. I didn't realize we talking about rear shocks only, they can be a bit difficult too.

Yes, we read them. FMG was agreeing with you, so was I, sort of. "sometimes they help".

Cat Man HHR

Look Don, I only wanted to tell people that a noise in the rear of our cars can be from a bad shock, that's all.
It escalated into more than I thought it would be.
Tried to prove automotive logic and got answers back from "automotive" people that really never did/study this.
I try my best to help and inform when I can, and when I make a mistake, I do stand down and admit it.
I'm on other car forums where I offer my knowledge and at the same time learn.
I could go on, but I'll end it here.

donbrew

sorry