Not the same, and I hope you realize that. I love it when people compare drag cars with street cars. Guess you should remove the muffler also, who needs backpressure. Definately not the high horse power the drag cars make. I also venture to guess that the high speed air being crammed into the butterfly's is more than enough to feed the beast.



OK, i'll give you the 2 HP, although you will not see that (I would venture to say .5 if your lucky). SoCal states about 7 HP for this intake. If you feel that the increase in $$ is worth 2 HP. then by all means go ahead. And then again, you have to look at what RPM's those 2 HP are going to come in at. Ceramic coating is great for headers as they help decrease underhood temps so it is not being sucked back into an engine. Which only truely effects an engine at very low speeds and idle. From speeds of 30-40+ MPH the air coming in through the grill is cooler. Why do you think clutch fans are in free wheel mode obove those speeds? Cause the air is cool enough to cool the engine.

I like ceramic coating, and especially for a steel intake tube, I would say it's worth it. Mainly for the corrosion protection, and it looks good. If you want to tell yourself you are going to get a couple more poines out if it, by all means do so. The price differance for the two through SoCal is what $30? $15 per HP, if you could acutally get that.

 

First i wasnt comparing a drag car to a street car just simply trying to prove my point that the cooler the air going into an engine the more horsepower it will produce. You made the statement it made no differance cause the air was moving so fast it would not change anything?(guess your in such a hurry to know your right you didnt understand that)
Second drag racing,stockcar racing, etc.. is where the aftermarket companies and the big 3 get ideas for increasing HP ,safety etc..items for cars so my comparison for colder air increasing hp through a scoop or a (COLD) air intake system would be accurate.

 

Whatever. You are totally correct. Everyone please only buy the ceramic version, It, of course, will make more power.

 

Here you go..
cool the beast.... with Thermal protection wrap..

 

I don't like wraps, they can hold in moisture and cause rust.

But that's probably and incorrect statement also.

 

Thanx hvrod like i said cooler air more power!!! even if it is a small gain!

 

I'm sure all parties here have their own beliefs on what works and why they believe what they do. Doing things differently is what makes having an HHR fun and we all have our beliefs on what the outcome may be.

I bought my HHR because it's a cool looking car that gets great gas mileage and allows me to modify it to to make it unique and different from the others. If I happen to gain a little horsepower along the way...that's cool. If I wanted a speed machine I would have bought something different...but it wouldn't have been nearly as cool as the HHR.

 

Every little bit counts.

 

I and others would like to see less hostility on this site. Please. If you wish to argue and be rude to eachother do it with a PM.

 

I totally agree. Each person will have their own opinion. I was just attempting state the logical fact. Think about it, this intake pulls air from the engine compartment. Granted, it is near the fender intake. But it still pulls from the engine compartment. Telling me that a ceramic coated intake pipe will actually cool the air after it enters the filter is . If this was an actual cold air system that pulled air only form the outside, maybe. But improvements so slight it would not make any differance in real life numbers. This is not a "cold" air system. This is similiar to am old style chevy with an open elements air cleaner on top of a 4 bbl with a cowl hood, maybe. This is also a steel intake tube, steel can (and usually will eventually) rust, painted or coated, it can rust. Aluminum and stainless can rust also. Wrapping an item can hold in moisture with can and usually will lead to rust. Would I risk having rust particles, or worse, chunks, float into my engine for a couple of horses, that may or may not even be there? On a daily driver? I think not. I could give you my background info, but it's like the bottom end where you sit, everyone has one. I'm done with this thread. I stated my point and opinion. Those that read it can hopefully make a more thoughful decision about this topic.

Just remember, HP is great, TQ is better. Both are worthless if they are in a range you don't use.

Pease everyone.