Hahn Performance
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Joined: 07-03-2008
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From: LaMarque,Tx
Your biggest difference with a custom tune is that you can always make changes as you keep building your car. I have the stage kit (i got it for the 3 bar map sensors) and tuned with HP tuners on top of it because im going to be doing a big turbo somewhere in the near future. And i will have dyno numbers soon with my HP Tune. The number in my sig is with full boltons and the stage kit and the new numbers will come in the spring
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Joined: 08-16-2009
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From: South
already done that. the difference??? a whopping 3hp. that is no difference to pull away from each other. ALL TUNES ARE THE SAME!!! hp tuners bee out awhile...still waiting on these tables to be unlocked??? like i said,they are all the same. show some dyno numbers from an unbias shop that trifecta puts out more. look at my mods,everyone with these mods are putting out close to the same numbers. keep in mind where you live and climate plays a big part on what you see on the dyno. i live at sea level so my numbers would be close to accurate. i'm not talking about cobalts...talking about OUR car.
HP Tuners didn't unlock the tables by the way, Trifecta did there is a huge friggin thread on cobalt ss network, he also unlocked th fan controls and found a spot for a extra input for use (he was asking people what they would like to see used for). Do some reading.
Well I guess its lucky for you I have the GM Tune and getting the Trifecta also. The only mods I'm adding are a DP, IC pipes and Dry flow filter (no its not Hahn parts). Since no one has dyno'd the two tunes back to back on a HHR SS, I guess I will be the first since they will both be on my car sometime the beginning of the year.
Yes I do realize they aren't the same cars (HHR vs. Cobalts), but they both have LNF engines in them. So 2 cobalts, one with a BSR tune vs. other tunes should suffice. Good luck finding a cobalt with a BSR tune. I prefer not to use any of the manufacturer sites or cars as they can be biased sometimes.
Now if you don't mind, post your dyno sheet and I will be kind to link you the dyno results from cobalt ss network (since they seem to be the only ones who really dyno the LNF engine). You can sift through all of the different tunes yourself. I didn't see any BSR Tuned LNF dyno results in there. I bet if you look hard enough you can find some other people from Texas who have dyno'd there cars with other tunes so there numbers will be close to accurate like yours
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163306
I'm pretty much done with this thread till you show evidence of what you claim. I have posted evidence above for you to go look at and compare.
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From: Chi-Towns burbs
Did you read Barts dyno #'s in his sig, that is a GM tune with a tune over it, no turbo upgrade and its a HHR SS?
HP Tuners didn't unlock the tables by the way, Trifecta did there is a huge friggin thread on cobalt ss network, he also unlocked th fan controls and found a spot for a extra input for use (he was asking people what they would like to see used for). Do some reading.
Well I guess its lucky for you I have the GM Tune and getting the Trifecta also. The only mods I'm adding are a DP, IC pipes and Dry flow filter (no its not Hahn parts). Since no one has dyno'd the two tunes back to back on a HHR SS, I guess I will be the first since they will both be on my car sometime the beginning of the year.
Yes I do realize they aren't the same cars (HHR vs. Cobalts), but they both have LNF engines in them. So 2 cobalts, one with a BSR tune vs. other tunes should suffice. Good luck finding a cobalt with a BSR tune. I prefer not to use any of the manufacturer sites or cars as they can be biased sometimes.
Now if you don't mind, post your dyno sheet and I will be kind to link you the dyno results from cobalt ss network (since they seem to be the only ones who really dyno the LNF engine). You can sift through all of the different tunes yourself. I didn't see any BSR Tuned LNF dyno results in there. I bet if you look hard enough you can find some other people from Texas who have dyno'd there cars with other tunes so there numbers will be close to accurate like yours
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163306
I'm pretty much done with this thread till you show evidence of what you claim. I have posted evidence above for you to go look at and compare.
HP Tuners didn't unlock the tables by the way, Trifecta did there is a huge friggin thread on cobalt ss network, he also unlocked th fan controls and found a spot for a extra input for use (he was asking people what they would like to see used for). Do some reading.
Well I guess its lucky for you I have the GM Tune and getting the Trifecta also. The only mods I'm adding are a DP, IC pipes and Dry flow filter (no its not Hahn parts). Since no one has dyno'd the two tunes back to back on a HHR SS, I guess I will be the first since they will both be on my car sometime the beginning of the year.
Yes I do realize they aren't the same cars (HHR vs. Cobalts), but they both have LNF engines in them. So 2 cobalts, one with a BSR tune vs. other tunes should suffice. Good luck finding a cobalt with a BSR tune. I prefer not to use any of the manufacturer sites or cars as they can be biased sometimes.
Now if you don't mind, post your dyno sheet and I will be kind to link you the dyno results from cobalt ss network (since they seem to be the only ones who really dyno the LNF engine). You can sift through all of the different tunes yourself. I didn't see any BSR Tuned LNF dyno results in there. I bet if you look hard enough you can find some other people from Texas who have dyno'd there cars with other tunes so there numbers will be close to accurate like yours
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163306
I'm pretty much done with this thread till you show evidence of what you claim. I have posted evidence above for you to go look at and compare.
And ill say this. Once i got my car tuned there was one hell of a difference from what i had with just the stage kit. My tuner said i should be sitting around 330whp and this guy knows his stuff. For those who go on cobalt ss. net his name is 06black
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From: Ohio
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From: Raleigh, NC
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From: Hayward, Ca.
My two cents worth on this : If you don't have dyno numbers to prove your [susposed H.P. and Tq.] then your just blowing smoke. Saying your getting such and such H.P, and Tq. without anything to back it up, don't amount to anything. Put up or........!.
When I go for H.P. and TQ. numbers[ soon], I'll post a dyno sheet, before I spout off. Everyone should do likewise.
I'm still working on getting my SS, looking a little different than a stocker. Gitty-up comes next. "Moon"
When I go for H.P. and TQ. numbers[ soon], I'll post a dyno sheet, before I spout off. Everyone should do likewise.
I'm still working on getting my SS, looking a little different than a stocker. Gitty-up comes next. "Moon"
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Joined: 07-15-2009
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From: Waterbury CT
My two cents worth on this : If you don't have dyno numbers to prove your [susposed H.P. and Tq.] then your just blowing smoke. Saying your getting such and such H.P, and Tq. without anything to back it up, don't amount to anything. Put up or........!.
When I go for H.P. and TQ. numbers[ soon], I'll post a dyno sheet, before I spout off. Everyone should do likewise.
I'm still working on getting my SS, looking a little different than a stocker. Gitty-up comes next. "Moon"
When I go for H.P. and TQ. numbers[ soon], I'll post a dyno sheet, before I spout off. Everyone should do likewise.
I'm still working on getting my SS, looking a little different than a stocker. Gitty-up comes next. "Moon"
Agreed Moon! I have my dyno sheet numbers posted for my Stage kit + Hahn exhaust in my gallery for those interested in seeing it. I do suspect still that the numbers should read higher but only another trip to the dyno can confirm that. I didn't get a chance to get to the track this year either, hopefully this coming season!
Later
Allex
<--------- This guy posted a 7.1 in a stock Aveo. See how easy that was.
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Joined: 05-06-2008
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From: Over here
Can you clarify this statement? Are you indicatating that the BSR product offers multiple tune flashes for the HHR customer? Or are you saying that there are multiple competitors offering tunes? I just didn't follow what you meant by your original.
