You totally have a right to vent your frustrations with a new car with problems. However, I think what people are jumping on is that you are saying that Chevy is sub-par. In my previous reply I stated all of the good luck with GM and then some bad luck with Honda. I think most people can do the same as well as do it vice versa. My point was that ALL car manufacturers regardless of location have build problems of some sort. It is the nature of the beast when it comes to mass producing something on the scale of automobiles.

It totally sucks to be in your situation, but it is not a lemon based on the definitions of the lemon law. Also, try not to lambaste the entire company and the car based on your situation alone.

 

Sorry ... have not been screwed over by a Chevy yet. My good luck? Yup. But my HHR is 7 months old now, nearing 15,000 miles, and not a single problem with it. Only back to the dealership once for a service issue, and that was the safety recall to add the additional padding to the headliner over the front doors.

I smile every time I get in my HHR -- heck, I even smile as soon as I see it when I walk up to it in a parking lot or walk out and see it in my driveway.

I'm outta here ... I wish you luck in getting things resolved in a way that makes you happy.

 

Nope. The Saab 9-3's F35-MC6 transmission is assembled in Sweden, but the F35-MU3 in the HHR and Cobalt SS is actually built by FGP Getrag in Germany.

You know who I really blame for the US automaker's woes? The dealers. They sell the cars and when they hire lackeys to service them, it's always GM's fault. Nevermind the same dealer owns a Toyota lot a few miles down the road that they make more money on per car and will happily send that frustrated GM owner to when they can't or won't fix the vehicle properly.

 

BS . . .Your car is NOT a lemon . . . and it is people JUST like you that make people who REALLY do have a lemon have to fight twice as hard because YOU are milking the system.

Yes it totally sucks and is infuriating that a car breaks down and leaves you stranded, especially a new one, but in absolute no terms what so ever is the car a lemon and you should be completely asamed for calling it one.

You have every right to vent . . . but you have asbolute NO right to blatantly call your car a lemon just because it broke down ONCE. No to accuse GM of making subpar products.

Yes it totally blows your new HHR is in for service, but give the techinicians at the dealership at least one chance to get it fixed . . .

jeez . . .

 

Unlike the U.S., Canada has no lemon laws despite attempts to establish them in British Columbia, Manitoba and Ontario.*

* = Source from: http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2007...nadian_ca.html

 

I will say sorry for one thing and one thing only.....the term "Lemon."
I didn't realize there was a legal definition for the term and that it had to meet certain parameters. In Canada it is simply a term you use for a sub-par car. The term is subjective based on the owner's opinion, not a definition as it is apparently in the U.S. Conversely the term cream puff means a great car that never caused a problem, but again subjective to the owner's opinion.....no laws at all. If the use of that term is what set everyone off, then chalk it up to ignorance on my part.....but not intentional by use of the term.

I stand by everything else that I say and I agree that dealers can be scammers, but mine is fine.

Curious what a vehicle has to go through to be termed a "lemon' according to US laws.

 

In Indiana, three repair attempts must have been completed and when the same component or system fails again and needs a fourth repair, the car is legally a lemon and the manufacturer has to buy it back or otherwise compensate the customer.

This is off the top of my head without looking it up.

 

If you had read my posts you would see that my response has nothing to do with the dealership, but rather, your (poor) purchase decision to have bought a car from such an obviously inferior manufacturer.

BTW, I really like the nice peppering of racially derogatory statements... those "Japs" and 'how unskilled Mexicans are.'

No reply necessary. You are person number 2 on this board to have earned a slot on my twit list.

 

What do I need to do before I can claim that my car is a lemon?

Step one: The vehicle must have been taken in for a reasonable number of attempts to repair the defect(s). It is already presumed that your vehicle has undergone a reasonable number of attempts - and therefore that it is a lemon - in the following situations:
If you have taken the car in for at least three repair attempts for the same defect, and the defect continues to exist;
Or, if the car has been out of service for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days while being repaired for any number of defects, and the defect continues to exist.

Your claim will be made easier if you have documentation (repair orders) proving three repair attempts or 30 days out of service.

Step two: After either three repair attempts or 30 days out of service, you must provide - by registered or express mail - written notification to the manufacturer (not the dealer), giving the manufacturer a final opportunity to repair the defect.

If you provide such notice after the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, you may be required to pay for repairs if they are not covered by the warranty.

Step three: After the manufacturer receives your notice of final opportunity to repair, it has 10 days to direct the consumer to a repair facility; this facility then has up to 10 days from receipt of the vehicle to fix it.

http://floridadrivers.com/traffic_co...lemon_law.php/

 

Kenny and Ranger...thx for the info. No such laws here, civil remedy is your only recourse.

XXL: Whatever, you're the first and only one to make my goof list. At least that makes you the best at something.