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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EL_REY
LMFAO....
really thats all about i can say there...

honestly if you believe CNN then you have bigger problems...and if you believe WIKIPEDIA, you have even BIGGER problems...how is HE DANGEROUS? he is less dangerous than saddam; if anything he WOULD HAVE BEEN ON OUR SIDE to get rid of saddam

hostages - not true.. he never was a part of that

holocaust - ok maybe he did call it a myth.. but whats wrong with that, i took think it should be questioned

isreal - On October 26, 2005 Ahmadinejad gave a speech at a conference in Tehran entitled "World Without Zionism". According to widely published translations, he agreed with a statement he attributed to Ayatollah Khomeini that the "occupying regime" had to be removed, and referred to it as a "disgraceful stain [on] the Islamic world", that needed to be "wiped from the map." so you see its a DIRECT QUOTE as you say, but a DIRECT MISQUOTE, how convienient for ISREAL huh to drum up some support and propoganda...

weapons - there is NO EVIDENCE or if there is its PROVEN TO BE FAKE about weapons killing US soldiers, its all LIES PROPOGANDA FEAR/WAR MONGERING GETTING SUPPORT to INVADE A COUNTRY..matter of fact, some of the supposed "weapons" had english writing on them (in the many many pictures shows on the web and news) and english dates; while iran uses farsi(or whatever they speak) and thier arabian date which i think is like 1249 or something right now...so ye ai guess those weapons really are iranian weapons, and the caliber and sixe of the weapons were ones that RUSSIA used as well as ENGLAND...

as far as israel the REAL enemy....
The American people cannot turn a blind eye towards the actions Israel takes against the people of Palestine. Our tax dollars have been used to fund Israel's economy, and American made weapons are being used by Israel's military to carry out it's brutal oppression against the poor people in Palestine.
The Palestinians, and just about all the other Arabs in the Middle East, hate America because of it's unquestioning support for Israel. The U.S. gives Israel over $3 billion dollars each year, free trade, and military hardware while at the same time our government ignores Israel's human rights violations against the Palestinian people. Therefore, the political leaders in America, both Democrats and Republicans, are hypocrites and are guilty of supporting terrorism against innocent Gentiles in the Middle East. (this is why **** happens to us, terrorist ****)

not to mention the "dancing isrealis on 911"

"Jews have always controlled the business...The motion picture influence of the United States and Canada...is exclusively under the control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind." Henry Ford - President of Ford Motor Company (1921)

look at this link (WARNING GRAPHIC) http://www.halturnershow.com/IsraeliAtrocities.html
thats whay ISREAL DOES to palestinians...and WE(THE US) SUPPORTS THEM UNCONDITIONALLY...now you ask WHY are the TWIN TOWERS GONE, THE PENTAGON HIT and CRASH IN PENN? you will see why....
He is dangerous because he is a nut case leading a country who is trying to obtain nuclear weapons. There is no question in my mind IF he were to obtain a nuclear weapon, he would use it against Israel.

The question of whether he was a part of the hostage situation is in question, however there are several people who were hostages recognise him as one of the people involved. He was a student at the time, and was known to be radical (big surprise).

No matter how you try to spin his words, it is clear he hates Israel, and want them destroyed. And would be happy to be the one responsible for doing just that.

This is a quote from Richard Clarke about weapons from Iran.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there, I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops." Richard Clarke is a counter terrorism specialists and served for over 30 years in the State Department. I would tend to believe him over some nut job web site with an agenda.

On Israel, there are always two sides to every story. The Israeli people want peace, but they are continually attacked. They have a right to defend themselves. The land in ancient times (called Judea) was occupied by Jews, then was conquered by the Romans and renamed Palestine. Arabs then took the land, then it was taken back by the Jews. In 1917 Palestine was granted to Britain to build a home for Jews. This is how the conflict stared, in a nutshell. It is difficult to say the Jews are the sole aggressor, and even more difficult to say they do not have a right to that land.

As far as 9-11, we did NOT cause the attacks. We were attacked by radical extremists who want to kill us (which includes you also) because we are seen as the great satin. It's our freedom, and our lifestyle, and most of all our religion (or lack of being a Muslim) that drives their hate. They are the one with the problem, not us. They are the extremists who want to kill everyone who does not think the same way they do.

BTW it took me so long to respond because the Missouri Football game is on and I've been watching the Tigers destroy the Buffalo's from Colorado. Go Tigers!!!
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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well i dont know if i want to respond more about what i was talking about..i dont want the thread locked...

BUT....

maybe al queda (translation - the toilet; a CIA front )
has ties to mexican extremists...and this is thier whole goal to disrupt the every interest that america has...

many radicals in mexico have been bombing PEMEX refineries in mexico causing a spike in the price of oil....i wonder WHY the USA media and FAUX(fox) news hasnt said anythng about this yet...like when that one guy said the wild fires in cali might be caused by al queda? HAH
now if they do decide to go with that story, then the racist ass ppl who are against mexicans coming to the USA for the american dream can push the whole fence/racist/border security thing, and the whole "terrorists may come from mexico" when we know they would rather come in thru canada..

and just quick...its been proven that IRAN is NOT trying to get NOOCULAR weapons...inspectors have been in that country in and out and have seen his facilities(boieng built) and they are what he says they are; FOR POWER...i may not be certain, but i dont even think that he would try and launch NOOCULAR strike against israel....WE (the US) have been provoking IRAN for toolong now...if anyone is going to start WW3 its US not THEM
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Sure, nuclear power plants for power only, just like North Korea As for Mexicans coming to America, they are welcome to come here LEGALY. If you don't respect our laws, you should not be here. There should be a fence to keep those ILLEGALS out. Does that make me a racist? I don't think so. If Mexicans want to come here to live their part of the American dream, come on in, just do it legal. Immigration is a big part of the success of this country. But it must be done in accordance to our laws. And our laws must be enforced.

I don't have any thing more to say on this. It's clear we come from two different sides, and neither is going to convince the other to change. Have a nice evening.
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Why do you need to build nuke plants for electricity when you are sitting on top of one of the world's largest natural gas reserves, plus oil? Its all a sham, and anyone can see through it. If Aminjadidingdong has any sense whatsoever, he will accept the recent offer from Saudi King Abdullah and agree to obtain nuclear fuel from the proposed consortium to be based in a neutral country such as Switzerland. But then Aminijad (I can't spell it...) NEEDS a bogeyman to focus his people on, in order to divert their attention from the huge economic failures he has brought down on Iran. Prices are doubling on stuff there every year.


As for Mexican's coming for the American Dream, got no problem with that as long as they respect the border and immigrate legally.

And I LOVE how the left throws out the R word on any argument to try and put the other side on the defensive from the get-go. If you feel the need to attach a prejudiced "ist" label on someone for their being against illegal immigration, call them a "nationalist" because it is about the national border and national laws, not about what color the person trying to come in is. I personally know a number of African Americans who are against illegal immigration, that does not make them racist.
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Just to add some fuel to the fire......

Do some research in this forum and look at some old threads. You will see who really is the racist here, based on several of the responses he was "called" on.....and it isn't anyone that was accused in this thread (but might be someone that has participated ).

Hint......my mama used to say, "It's a case of the pot calling the kettle black".
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Alzonie
You lost me on this one! What does being Hispanic have to do with supporting that "Nut Job" leader over in Iran?
we have Moorish blood

Originally Posted by mizzouHHR
How on Earth can you support a so called leader who calls OUR President satin, who is an enemy of this country, who says the Holocaust never happened, who supports terrorist and aids those who are killing our troops, who says Israel will be wiped off the face of the Earth? UNBELIEABLE!
if he calls him satin why would you NOT support him?
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mizzouHHR
He is dangerous because he is a nut case leading a country who is trying to obtain nuclear weapons. There is no question in my mind IF he were to obtain a nuclear weapon, he would use it against Iran.

Now it sounds like Bush

The question of whether he was a part of the hostage situation is in question, however there are several people who were hostages recognise him as one of the people involved. He was a student at the time, and was known to be radical (big surprise).
Provide proof



This is a quote from Richard Clarke about weapons from Iran.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there, I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops." Richard Clarke is a counter terrorism specialists and served for over 30 years in the State Department. I would tend to believe him over some nut job web site with an agenda.
if the evidence is strong...post a link. how about our policies in making and reselling firearms and aircraft to other countries? do you think we sell it to them to not kill people? dont you think some of the weapons we provided to the middle east during the cold war are not killing our own troops today?

On Israel, there are always two sides to every story. The Israeli people want peace, but they are continually attacked. They have a right to defend themselves. The land in ancient times (called Judea) was occupied by Jews, then was conquered by the Romans and renamed Palestine. Arabs then took the land, then it was taken back by the Jews. In 1917 Palestine was granted to Britain to build a home for Jews. This is how the conflict stared, in a nutshell. It is difficult to say the Jews are the sole aggressor, and even more difficult to say they do not have a right to that land.
when the US backs you up as an ally...best to be sure you are the aggressor

As far as 9-11, we did NOT cause the attacks. We were attacked by radical extremists who want to kill us (which includes you also) because we are seen as the great satin. It's our freedom, and our lifestyle, and most of all our religion (or lack of being a Muslim) that drives their hate. They are the one with the problem, not us.
you are a radical extremist as well...in fact you are a radical extremist
who keeps referring to us as fabric, get it right....its SATAN!!!!


They are the extremists who want to kill everyone who does not think the same way they do.
please tell me why we are in Iraq?


BTW it took me so long to respond because the Missouri Football game is on and I've been watching the Tigers destroy the Buffalo's from Colorado. Go Tigers!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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And I LOVE how the left throws out the R word on any argument to try and put the other side on the defensive from the get-go. If you feel the need to attach a prejudiced "ist" label on someone for their being against illegal immigration, call them a "nationalist" because it is about the national border and national laws, not about what color the person trying to come in is. I personally know a number of African Americans who are against illegal immigration, that does not make them racist.
when LSChicago made a comment in another thread about a red leather dash looking like, "A Mexican Crackhead" made the dash. the comment stayed up for a day or two

i responded to him as an A-hole and i was reported in a matter of hours.

seems like more people here were okay with saying "Mexican Crackheads", but had an issue with me saying a-hole
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Now it sounds like Bush Bush has WMDs, yet has not used them, and wouldn't use them unless we were in grave and imminent danger.

Provide proof http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=52932 and this is just one of many

if the evidence is strong...post a link. how about our policies in making and reselling firearms and aircraft to other countries? do you think we sell it to them to not kill people? don't you think some of the weapons we provided to the middle east during the cold war are not killing our own troops today?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...1692347&page=1 again, just one of many. And as I said, I would believe Richard Clarke since he was in the State dept and head of the counter terrorism dept for 30 years. For you lefties, he is also not a friend of the Bush Administration. As far as old weapons, anything is possible. At the time Saddam seemed the lessor of two evils, so he was supported in the Iran-Iraq war.

when the US backs you up as an ally...best to be sure you are the aggressor All I can say to that is WOW. Why do you hate your country? Why do you live here? You are free to leave.

you are a radical extremist as well...in fact you are a radical extremist
who keeps referring to us as fabric, get it right....its SATAN!!!!
Again see above. If you hate it here and think we are the great satin, leave.

please tell me why we are in Iraq?] Easy, we are in Iraq to put in place a stable democracy in the Middle East in an effort to stabilize the region and bring peace to a part of the world that knows only war.
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Lone Ranger
Why do you need to build nuke plants for electricity when you are sitting on top of one of the world's largest natural gas reserves, plus oil? Its all a sham, and anyone can see through it. If Aminjadidingdong has any sense whatsoever, he will accept the recent offer from Saudi King Abdullah and agree to obtain nuclear fuel from the proposed consortium to be based in a neutral country such as Switzerland. But then Aminijad (I can't spell it...) NEEDS a bogeyman to focus his people on, in order to divert their attention from the huge economic failures he has brought down on Iran. Prices are doubling on stuff there every year.


As for Mexican's coming for the American Dream, got no problem with that as long as they respect the border and immigrate legally.

And I LOVE how the left throws out the R word on any argument to try and put the other side on the defensive from the get-go. If you feel the need to attach a prejudiced "ist" label on someone for their being against illegal immigration, call them a "nationalist" because it is about the national border and national laws, not about what color the person trying to come in is. I personally know a number of African Americans who are against illegal immigration, that does not make them racist.
Lone ranger, I have not agreed with you very often, but with this you are right on the money. Nice post.



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