LMAO you can post that drivel all you want, I am telling MY ACTUAL experience. Sorry you do not like it but it is true.

 

o6 Amethyst......

I guess you don't believe in CHANGE (tongue in cheek), eh.

After all you did say, " by your experience......". So that is from previous encounters with GM products? You do realize the article posted above is related to the NEW vehicles?

I also guess you are one of the people I referred to when I said, "perceptions", in my earlier post in this thread.

 

You don't follow too many forums do ya...... Have you ever looked to see what the million plus annual Toyota recalls are even for? OR Honda's?

 

Previous and CURRENT experiences

 

Actually yes I do

Don't get your panties all in a bunch just because chevy's are not perfect quality like some of you would like to think.

You must not read all the issue threads on this site.

Wow, I can use the smileys too!

 

My offices manages over 8000 vehicles in the state of GA alone (98% domestic). We have several hundred thousand in the country. Part of my job is to monitor the maintenance and repair of these vehciles, daily. Oh yea I read this issues on this site and really get a laught at some of them. Chevy perfect, never said that. Just that the imports are no better, been proven time and time again in recent years. And in lots of cases domestics are better. I'm not talking about you hating the cupholder, I'm talking about actual problems. Not something you hate and never could figure that out on the test drive or in the so-called research you never looked up on a car purchased.

I see the results daily. When my wifes 03 import is due for a replacement, it will not be with another import. I want her and my daughter to be in something I trust.

When I see what the Army and some of my other customers do to vehicles and they are still running.... You can scream import quality all you want, I have a test they will fail, give it to a recuiter or put it on a tank trail.

 

Impressive job Good for you!

I run a large medical research center, not quite as important and not related to this subject but since you felt the need to post up your job I thought I would throw mine out there too just to be a smart@ss lol.

Glad you think chevy is #1, I own several cars of different makes and I know what I experience so that is what I am going to go by. I would say 3 late model domestic cars purchased brand new with a slew of issues that amount to significantly more than an old beat import again, is just sad.

I love my HHR but I am quite frustrated with all the issues both of them have had. I also find it quite amusing all the members here that have problem after problem with the quality of their chevy's and still blindly follow the brand like it is the only one out there. Personally I just buy what I like, regardless of brand. I find it quite boring to buy the same car, the same color and so on like a lot of people do.


Also, please note the random smileys inserted into the post. I hope you enjoyed them.

 

I still never said Chevy is #1.... I like various models for various reasons. I can say, I've never owned a Dodge....

My job is directly related to the automotive buisness, as we buy so many each and every year. Are all great and problem free? Hell no. But I'll compare my last two vehicles as they were only one year apart.

First was my 1996 1500. It was stolen in 2006 with about 120,000 miles on it, so any report have to stop there, of course.. But during my ownership since new, I replaced the alternator and water pump both at about 100,000 miles. At 110,000 I had to replace the intake gaskets. That was it. Rest was normal maintenance.

Seems to be the norm for the most part on the 88-98 model GM trucks.

Second was a 1995 Honda Odyssey, first gen based solely on the Accord. SO basically a bigger Accord, even had swing out rear doors, no sliders. Fairly problem free accept in Dec 2003 at 120,000 miles, the crank shaft seal decided to let go while my wife was coming home from NC in the winter and lost all oil. Byt the time the oil light came on, motor had spun a bearing. You can buy a crate 350 cheaper than a rebuilt Honda motor. But that's another story.

Typical, nope. This was actually my 4th Honda. I did buy another, a new 1999 Accord EX, but hated ever aspect of the car and sold it. No Honda's for me again. I keep reading horror stories about them and I have dealt with their service departments before.

Replaced that with an 03 Mazda, and even though it hasn't given me that much trouble, what I know now (new model at the time) I don't trust it. That's why it only has 51K miles on it.

The HHR on the other hand, was nervious of buying a new model again, but no real issues that were not handled quickly by warranty, which expires today when I roll another 19 miles on my way home.....

I hate it when I hear of anyone with any car having so many issues. I ignore everything I hear on Comsumer Reports or similiar on any vehicle reports, they are all one sided in one way or another. I even read a report once that did not recommend the Vibe, but praised the Matrix..... Now figure that one out.

 

I agree that magazines and professional car "reviewers" are hypocritical and will review rebadged cars as extreme opposites and will do car comparisons or "shootouts" where the scores add up in one cars favor yet they will pick the other as the winner because of something silly like "the $*&$( is the true winner because !@!@! had poor quality stitching on the floor mats" or something silly to that extent lol. I would assume because one manufacturer paid them more money than the other.

That is why I place more faith in the quality of a car from my personal experience and not by someone elses opinion.

I feel the same way about movie reviewers, I never listen to what they say because typically what they review as a great movie sucks and what they say is a bad movie is great lol.

 

06AmethystHHR, I'm very sorry to hear that you have had so many problems. Judging from my own experience, I think yours is atypical.

Two things that I think are important here: 1)When a GM car has a
chronic design flaw that is not safety related, they issue a TSB. If the
problem doesn't show up until the car is out of warranty, the customer
is on the hook. If a Toyota or Honda has non-safety related problem,
they almost always issue a recall. Better service = better quality in
most people's minds. Perception is reality.

2) Almost all owners of foreign name plates I know tend to get rid of
their cars well before hitting the 100k mark. Fear of failure? At least most of them tell me that they get concerned. Most people I know who own domestic name plates run their cars into the ground. 150k - 200k is not uncommon in my circle of friends. When all is said and done, I find that most owners of domestic vehicles have about the same number of repairs, domestics seem to have more issues in the first 25k, foreign name plates seem to have more problems above 50k. All of them have some issues above 100k.

I know 1 guy that had a Camry that needed a valve job at 60k. A neighbor just had to replace transmissions in 2 Toyotas he owns. Neither car is more than 5 years old. We have a friend who had an Accord that needed an engine rebuild at 75k. And don't get me started on the electrical issues that Nissans have as they approach 70k. I've yet to have a major repair on a GM under 100k. And I've never, in 30 years had a bad motor. I've replaced a couple of transmissions, but not until they hit 120k or more.

Chevy/GM #1? Naw. But dollar for dollar, I think they are a better value.