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Old Aug 4, 2018 | 03:19 PM
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The more cost effective thing to do is replace the injectors, cleaning and rebuilding usually are a waste of money. You can get a set of injectors and seals for about $100, last I looked BG44K was around $40.

The bluish color of the old O2 sensor could indicate somebody has used silicone products that got into the combustion.
BG44k runs $24 on amazon. Ordered one for her, and one for me. :)
Car has never been apart as far as the silicone. Only thing done to it is what you have seen here, and 2 sets of front hubs.

I can triple check the gasket again. I have a friend with a lift that I may just drive it out there for a thorough inspection.
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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While it’s on the lift, fully inspect the fuel lines front to rear for any wet spots.
if you can rent or borrow a fuel pressure gauge and check fuel pump pressure
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
While it’s on the lift, fully inspect the fuel lines front to rear for any wet spots.
if you can rent or borrow a fuel pressure gauge and check fuel pump pressure
He has fuel pressure gauge as well. I'll report my findings, just gonna take a bit before I can get over there.
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 04:01 PM
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Take a thank you six pack, it’s customary in my neck of the woods!
Fuel pressure should be 50 to 60 lbs key on , engine off.
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 04:22 PM
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And hold it for 15 minutes after you turn the key off. The pump only runs for a few seconds without the engine running (15 sec. without looking it up).
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 04:59 PM
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I just tried mine , I got 3 steamboats.
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 06:15 AM
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Quick update

Originally Posted by Oldblue
I just tried mine , I got 3 steamboats.
What? Not sure what you mean here.

Current update (I haven't checked the fuel pressure yet). But, the BG44k added and the clearing of the code has kept the code off for the moment. I did purchase a new fuel pressure gauge, and will report my findings.
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 09:02 AM
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The pump ran for 3 seconds till it pressured up .
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 11:35 AM
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Okay, a little addition to all of this and some updates.
After the BG44k, everything was fine for quite some time. No CEL, no issues.
The other day, my wife called an said the car drove fine to work, then wouldn't start to come home for lunch. Grabbed my jump box and code scanner and headed to her job.
Jumped the car, it chugged but started. CEL light on. Checked light, P0172 still there.
I've went over the starting system and everything seems kosher. But when starting after sitting all night, it would CHUG to get fired up. Sometimes the remote start wouldn't even be enough to get it fired, and had to lay on the key a bit further. I also noticed a fuel smell after starting.
SOO- I've cleared the code and it returned again.
I replaced the rear evap canister, as it only takes 3 friggin seconds and 30 dollars. Cleared code.
Still have a chugging upon start and fuel smell.
Fuel Pressure- Key On, No start 53psi.

I'm guessing maybe a leaky injector now? (This is something we bounced around with before)
Would that cause the chugging for a few seconds on cold start/hard starting? After it runs for a minute, it's been fine.
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Should add, it's been cold around here. I know the ECM should add additional fuel for the cold start. I don't see any leaky lines anywhere, and no evidence of any fuel spillage. All of the fuel smell is coming from exhaust.

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