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Vibration driving over 45 mph when I make a right turn... & Frustration

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
My 2 centimes is bad front brakes, probably bad calipers or caliper slide pins.
mmmm....might be.... Make your bet!!!

Bad Brakes: 2
Cv Axle: 1 (me)
Old Oct 8, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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[QUOTE=donbrew;497780] If you do not know what you are doing with brakes hire someone who does, not the guy next door who has a jack and a socket set!!!!!!!!!
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It's true.
Always a priority would trust a specialist. But only an expert-tested. Man you can trust.
As I understood when communicating with members of this forum are good professionals do not often see in the U.S.. In Mexico, a good specialist even rarer.
We must not forget that the big professional asks a lot of money.
Check the brakes - a simple operation, for which you should not overpay.
Step by step:
1. Raise the car with the jack;
2. Remove the wheel;
3. Nut (perhaps there bolt) located in the bottom of the Brake Caliper. Unscrew its open end wrench. Release bracket Brake Caliper;
4. Bracket - this is such a metal frame, there are brake pads. Bracket easily rises to the top of your bare hands (as a bow of a padlock);
5. Next you do not need any tools, only your fingers. Subchain brake shoe with your fingers and pull it off. Will be a little messy, but it's not a problem. Brake pad is associated parts - tin strip and a progress bar "creaking" (a small metal trick). Do not lose them when going to mount the brake shoe back to bring back into place;
6. Inspect the condition of pads visually. Turn her butt and look uniform stitching.;
7. If the brake shoe rubbed unevenly - braking system must be repaired;
8. Not simply replace the brake pads. The rotor has a curve and it will ruin the new brake shoe. Replace the rotor, but cheaper running tap its surface. This operation should be done ONLY SPECIALIST! home to produce it is not possible;
9. Prior to the return of brake pads will evaluate rubber parts Brake Caliper. They should not have gaps and cracks. Wipe the dirt carefully with a tissue to s top inspection.
My HHR I bought in the U.S. in New Jersey. I have had the same problem with the brakes. Curves rotors, brake pads curves. I spoke with the owners of various American cars. A similar problem occurs frequently. One devil knows that the Americans are doing with their brakes and a relay them to a terrible state. I think to blame those "experts" poorly performing their duties and are subject to risk lives of drivers.
Good luck.
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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UPDATE:

Well, the rotors have been re-surfaced, the brake pads replaced, calipers & brake pins inspected, and also the sway bar bushings were replaced (older look acceptable). At this time, my HHR brakes better and smooth as before... But still the damn vibration when I´m turning to the right and the RrRrRrRrRrRrR/Howling noise still! My last shot is for CV axle...
Old Oct 18, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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I spent all the weekend to continue to fix this damn vibration. At this time:
- Hub bearing replaced on driver´s side (no solution)
- Resurfaced rotors and new brake pads installed (brakes better as before, but still the issue)
- Sway bar bushing replaced. No success.
- CV axle replaced on driver´s side (no solution) I performed this task myself this weekend...

But, it seems that we have a winner:

Originally Posted by sleeper
Gotta start somewhere: I'd check both front wheels for excessive end-play, with a dial indicator.. Should be less than .002
I went to a tire shop to allign the front and they told me that wasn´t possible... I Began to suspect then that the direction components can cause this. I tried to move at 3 & 9 direction both wheels and guess what... There´s play and also a clunk noise heard on the passenger side!! Then, there´s that vibration when I make a turn! Inner tie rods???? what do you think?
Old Oct 18, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagohhr

I went to a tire shop to allign the front and they told me that wasn´t possible... I Began to suspect then that the direction components can cause this. I tried to move at 3 & 9 direction both wheels and guess what... There´s play and also a clunk noise heard on the passenger side!! Then, there´s that vibration when I make a turn! Inner tie rods???? what do you think?
Why did the tire shop say an alignment wasnt possible?
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by prod
Why did the tire shop say an alignment wasnt possible?
The argument was "there´s something loose on the front end", just that.
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Zagohhr
The argument was "there´s something loose on the front end", just that.
and they don't know what? I'd find another shop.
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagohhr

I spent all the weekend to continue to fix this damn vibration. At this time:

- Hub bearing replaced on driver´s side (no solution)
- Resurfaced rotors and new brake pads installed (brakes better as before, but still the issue)
- CV axle replaced on driver´s side (no solution) I performed this task myself this weekend...
Well were not sure what Brakes would have to do with this symptom as you never stated an issue while applying the Brakes? You original statement was for speeds over 45 mph and turning right but hey stranger things have happend! The other thing is why only change out the driverside bearing and axle? Complete both sides and re-check! Another quick check would be to swap your tires and wheels front to rear!

Best-O-Luck ,
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagohhr
The argument was "there´s something loose on the front end", just that.
That means that you have a front-end problem!!!!!!! Listen to the mechanics next sentence!

ANY/EVERY shop that I have ever worked at or dealt with will say "we cannot align this front end"..... "because (insert part name here) is loose/out of specs it will cost you $XXX to fix it".

You CANNOT align a front end that has worn out parts. Should you do that the very second that the vehicle is moved from the instruments the alignment WILL change.

I am beginning to think this thread is
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Finally solved...

Inner & Outer tie rods. No more words.
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