Top Speeds
Jesse, with your tune, elevated red-line, high-flow muffler, and cold air intake, my Excel calculations have you hitting 132 in 3rd (aka "I" gear).
With the speedometer only going to 120 (and it DOES stop there!), now we need some documentation of higher speeds.
Otherwise, talk is cheap.
With the speedometer only going to 120 (and it DOES stop there!), now we need some documentation of higher speeds.
Otherwise, talk is cheap.
Good question! But don't know the answer.
Maybe someone can try it? I wouldn't want to try to take a pic at those speeds, though!
The problem around here in SE VA (Jesse can attest to this!) is that congestion is so bad that the opportunity to stretch it out safely (emphasis on doing it safely, since we don't want anyone getting hurt!) is an extremely rare opportunity. I've done thousands of miles of travel on VA and NC interstates and finding that "gap" to safely try for top end is close to impossible.
A few weeks ago I suddenly saw that gap in NC, on I-85 just south of Greensboro. I had HP Tuners ready to log since I had been logging other data on the trip. About the time I was contemplating shifting to 5th, a truck came down an on-ramp ahead with a car following. I backed off because the car pulled into the left lane to pass as soon as they were on the main road.
The HP Tuners log showed 125 at just over 7,000 in 4th. (5-speed here)
The problem around here in SE VA (Jesse can attest to this!) is that congestion is so bad that the opportunity to stretch it out safely (emphasis on doing it safely, since we don't want anyone getting hurt!) is an extremely rare opportunity. I've done thousands of miles of travel on VA and NC interstates and finding that "gap" to safely try for top end is close to impossible.
A few weeks ago I suddenly saw that gap in NC, on I-85 just south of Greensboro. I had HP Tuners ready to log since I had been logging other data on the trip. About the time I was contemplating shifting to 5th, a truck came down an on-ramp ahead with a car following. I backed off because the car pulled into the left lane to pass as soon as they were on the main road.
The HP Tuners log showed 125 at just over 7,000 in 4th. (5-speed here)
Not trying to give you a hard time, but just asking...
Some computations with my Excel sheet have both the auto and 5-speed hitting RPM cutoff point at about 120 (auto in 3rd, 5-sp in 4th) and that's without the factory 108 MPH speed limiter. Upshifting with either will drop the RPMs well down the power band.
The HHR is a "brick" aerodynamically and not a high power car. The top speed will be aero-limited by the HP available.
So..... to back up my previous claim:
But, Mike, how do you know that?
Not trying to give you a hard time, but just asking...
Some computations with my Excel sheet have both the auto and 5-speed hitting RPM cutoff point at about 120 (auto in 3rd, 5-sp in 4th) and that's without the factory 108 MPH speed limiter. Upshifting with either will drop the RPMs well down the power band.
The HHR is a "brick" aerodynamically and not a high power car. The top speed will be aero-limited by the HP available.
So..... to back up my previous claim:

Not trying to give you a hard time, but just asking...
Some computations with my Excel sheet have both the auto and 5-speed hitting RPM cutoff point at about 120 (auto in 3rd, 5-sp in 4th) and that's without the factory 108 MPH speed limiter. Upshifting with either will drop the RPMs well down the power band.
The HHR is a "brick" aerodynamically and not a high power car. The top speed will be aero-limited by the HP available.
So..... to back up my previous claim:
Sometime's your as bad as you acuse SoCal Mike as always being.
This pic was taken with two adults, 2 kids and a PACKED car, please spare me safety comments, on my way to Bristol Speedway last summer. I had not had the tune done yet.
As you can see, 120mph @ 6500rpms. So yeah, with out a tune, the HHR CAN do 120+.
And just like you used to always throw at Mike, your nice litle computer generated graphic doesn't PROVE anything. I'm not saying it may not be genuine, but if you are going to always raise these BS issues with anything others say, then you should be held to the same standard. Let's see a pic of your gauges showing the same info, that would be proof.
BTW, I'm not siding with or against Mike, just giving examples of how you make a habit of calling people out.
Sometime's your as bad as you acuse SoCal Mike as always being.
This pic was taken with two adults, 2 kids and a PACKED car, please spare me safety comments, on my way to Bristol Speedway last summer. I had not had the tune done yet.
As you can see, 120mph @ 6500rpms. So yeah, with out a tune, the HHR CAN do 120+.
And just like you used to always throw at Mike, your nice litle computer generated graphic doesn't PROVE anything. I'm not saying it may not be genuine, but if you are going to always raise these BS issues with anything others say, then you should be held to the same standard. Let's see a pic of your gauges showing the same info, that would be proof.
BTW, I'm not siding with or against Mike, just giving examples of how you make a habit of calling people out.
I never made a comment on the safety issue. That's your or anyone else's judgement call.
Yes, 120 @ 6500 with an auto is right on.
My "nice little computer generated graphic" is a screenshot from a HP Tuners data log. How else can anyone document this? The factory speedometer will NOT pass 120, nor will the tach pass 7000. Hey, I'm not trying to sell Dyno Tabs here! Someone asked if resetting the DIC speed would show over 120 and I said I don't know. That may be interesting for anyone without the capability to log data otherwise. Who knows?
As far as "BS issues".... never said that or accused you of that! But I will say that anyone who earlier in this thread claimed over 108 with the 5-speed and no tune is BS'n!
As far as SoCal Mike and the myth and lore he put out, yes, when I know otherwise I will "call out" any statements that are doubious or contrary to known fact. Somebody needs to sometime.
And, finally, I've never called you on anything. I can never recall you making any statement that would raise my BS flag. I hope your business does well!
the 2.2 autos are governed to 106- 108 . try putting trans in I mode and walla gov is gone,after 112 they pull slow, at 115 watch out they feel weak kneed on bumps and bends and bouncy, i always put 45 psi in my continental vr tires



At least mine did!