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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TkHHR
..... I feel confident that I can fix my swirls now.

......

What swirls? Maybe I need glasses but the last time @ Cisco's I checked your's, Todd's and Angie's rides ---

I'm the one who has swirls

Kind of have mixed feelings about not being there. On the plus side I would've got some good first hand knowledge. On the negative side, you've would've seen my grumpy side..I used to be an instructor in a teacher/customer class setting and the number one thing no matter how bad your day is - never insult your students.

Regards...See you all next Saturday
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by afs9
I agree Todd, he was a bit patronizing at times and has probably been teaching the class too long. He pushed the forum alot-perhaps they *should* just do something on line if all the answers are there!

We may not drive Corvettes but we still love our cars and want them to look nice.

I did learn some things and it seems he passionate about his work-but overall, it was the company I went for

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Like I said, "Mike is the man" He is the detail god. Maybe
I took it too personal when he told people to be quiet, or said bad things about the cars.. I will let it go now LOL, Todd (Uma)
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Uma
Great pics Ang! I had a good time today. Just a little problem with the way that things were said..maybe just a little too bluntly. Mike is the man! no doubt. He is the best in the business, we are not, we try our best and do not need to be insulted. This is just me talking and in general not an opinion shared by SocalHHR's. Disclaimer said. You know that I could not leave it alone! I tried, I really did, but got to rant. If you teach a class like this, you need to know your students. You need to talk down to them, maybe not make them feel so inferior. Afterall, we are not rolling around in show cars. I personally did not want to ask any questions because I do not have 8 hours a day to dedicate to keeping up with the Meguiars forum and constantly being reminded that all our questions could be found by doing so! If I wanted to take an on-line class then I would not have spent my saturday being reminded that I could do it all on-line. I love the product, will continue to use it. But will not spend another saturday having my friend's cars ridaculed when they try so hard to keep them up. Sorry about the rant, just some of the comments rubbed me the wrong way. Glad that everyone had a great time. todd (Uma)
ahh, so you noticed that as well. I am in IT, and it is par for the course for a lot of experts, so I tend to have a thick skin about it. In my areas of expertise I have occasionally found myself being too blunt as well. it is very easy to do.
I have one SME(Subject Matter Expert) I work with that is a Lawyer who fully trained up and passed the Bar, then went into software. Can you imagine the way that he talks? I am one of the few people that can get along with him.
I was also watching Mike chafe against the restrictions in what he can teach, and what he has to cover for PR purposes. I was a trainer in the mid 80's and I had to talk the PR as well as train on the software.

Overall, I enjoyed the course, and what I learned. I also enjoyed comparing what I thought was a decent paint job versus what a pro would think. I need to re-evaluate my level of commitment to what this car will look like. Especially as it must be my primary daily driver first.

All in all, a good day.
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:52 AM
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Hey Everyone!

Wow, I was feeling really bad about not making it today, but then I read Todd's post. Sounds like one of the more interesting get togethers, heck, does this guy also work for Sonic? LOL

Anyway, Friday night Liana and I had a LATE gig and didn't get home until 2:30am. Then we had another on Saturday night. I really hoped to have the energy to make it Saturday morning, we just couldn't do it.

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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It sounds like I'm very happy that I was not there. Information is good on a big plate, but some of us need to be spoon fed. I can't wait to see ya all in your shinnnnnnnny HHR's. I am glad that he said your car (Todd) was OK, ya.
Harvey knows he's not perfect, one of the reasons is these cars are driven EVERY day, no trailer queens.
See ya down the road
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Well, I tend to let things roll off my back. Overall I felt like I was in Mikes domain so it was his show. It was a lot on information to get out with an emphasis on promoting each product that Meguiars makes. Mike was doing his job, but I agree that he was rather abrupt at times and his comments were tough.

I knew I had issues with my paint, that is the very reason I wanted to attend this class. However, when Mike said that Uma's shine was OK? Todd your car was its usual flawless self.

I think that Mike has lost sight of the reality of daily drivers. Mike spends days on cars polishing them up for car shows and doing amazing work. Everything else he sees must look like crap to him. He could be a little more understanding to reugular folks.

I am glad I went, but it is clear that the SoCal crew are a bunch of rable rousers and don't take kindly to authority figures!

I think they all grew up in the '60s and 70's or something

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajun
Man...those are two very cool guys using the DA in those pictures.
I wonder who they are..........LOL

Seriously....LOTS of great info and the hands-on demos were great.

Now I know what I am supposed to be doing to my paint.

Josh, Jeremy and I also thought that at times, Mike was a bit abrupt.

BUT....he does spend most days dealing with the dummies of the auto detailing
world.....and he sure knows his stuff.

Cajun
Yes, He may spend his time with those 'dummies' but we are not those people. I would suggest his class teaching plan/style could use some 'reworking'.
Do you think he spoke to the 'Rolls Royce club' in the same manner

Once we all digest what we learned and are able to apply the passion to the pad/s
schhr's will be needing

Great seeing everyone !
sorry about abrupt exit but I had to get some food my snack bar didn't last!

gentle hugs
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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I tell my son quite often when he's trying to explain a computer solution that I don't understand, "Son, sounds like your explaining brain surgery to a squirrel, can you tone it down a notch".

I wasn't able to make it but was wondering how Todds' HHR COULD become even more polished!
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TkHHR
Well, I tend to let things roll off my back. Overall I felt like I was in Mikes domain so it was his show. It was a lot on information to get out with an emphasis on promoting each product that Meguiars makes. Mike was doing his job, but I agree that he was rather abrupt at times and his comments were tough.

I knew I had issues with my paint, that is the very reason I wanted to attend this class. However, when Mike said that Uma's shine was OK? Todd your car was its usual flawless self.

I think that Mike has lost sight of the reality of daily drivers. Mike spends days on cars polishing them up for car shows and doing amazing work. Everything else he sees must look like crap to him. He could be a little more understanding to reugular folks.

I am glad I went, but it is clear that the SoCal crew are a bunch of rable rousers and don't take kindly to authority figures!

I think they all grew up in the '60s and 70's or something

Peace
Like Tim said, this dude is used to seeing and maintaining paint jobs that cost 10's of thousands of dollars. IMHO, if you have a DD car, it is going to be a little rough. My 46 and 55 Fords have never seen a hose and are cared for exactly like the class mentioned. They only see occasional driving. My HHR is a DD and I probably will never do to it what was shown in the class. I just dont have the time. Some of us take great measures and spend lots of time on our paint and it really shows.

Don, who's HHR looks AWESOME from 5 to 50' away. Maybe not so awesome from inside of 5'.
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TkHHR

I am glad I went, but it is clear that the SoCal crew are a bunch of rable rousers and don't take kindly to authority figures!

I think they all grew up in the '60s and 70's or something

Peace
Hey! I Resemble that Remark!!!



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