Your correct Hyper but its his baby anyways....Since GM wont get off the ASS and do the right thing anyways..... So whats the big F'ing deal.....right or wrong you want it done do it yourself......I always say.....:twothumb s:

 

Its still my baby regardless, but I bought a brand new car - this is my first new car right out of college - and spent the extra money on the official GM power upgrade kit accepted less power, just to keep my warranty intact, but aside from the installing dealer, no other GM dealer wants to touch the car.

So I'm more ticked off that the whole "doesn't affect your warranty" has a slight footnote that says "serviceable at installing dealer only."

 

Thats B.S. It is a GM part installed by chevy, There is no reason another dealer should not work on the car,

I'm so glad i drove an hour away to have mine installed by a true performance dealership .

I'd be on the phone to GM , And ask them where you can have work done ?

 

After dealing with two local dealerships, I've simply given up on getting GM to fix it. I've wasted more time going back and forth and arguing than it would've taken me to do it myself.

 

Battled with 3 dealers over the TPS finally 4th dealer fixed it. The other 3 said they changed parts. Forth dealer said no previous work visible. Still get random check engine and brake system lights.

 

WOW...I am considering purchasing an HHR. Are these cars really this problematic or are the majority of you running modifications to the engine?

Also I didn't see a reference to it but the Moss-Magnuson act expressly forbids denying warranty claim unless it can be proven that the aftermarket part caused the problem.

If you have lowering springs and your turbo goes out, the warranty claim cannot be denied. Unless the dealer can prove that the springs caused the failure.
http://goodoil4u.com/magnuson_moss_act.html

 

Keep in mind that you are only reading the complaints of a few and not the thousands that have have no issues. The greatest issues have been bad crimps on the new harness for the upgrade kits by poorly trained techs. Also clearance issues on the lower map. These are easily solved if you have the right dealer or know what to tell them to fix.

As for the Moss act. Many dealers make threats on the warranty but few act on them unless it is plain to see damage done.

The greatest issues are driveline warranties as often aftermarket tuners and the like on a Turbo engine can easily mess with the engine management system and kill a tranny of piston if the aftermarket item is not right. The margine of error is small anymore.

A few years ago when the Series III 3800 SC came out there was a programer that missed the mark. It would kill 1-2 pistons on new engines. It made good power while the engine lasted. Well GM did put the foot done on this as it was not their fault the engines were damaged.

The long and short of it is is you can't pay don't play if something goes south. There is always a chance you may have to cover the loss.

 

Tuanies, dude you need to go to Jet they have been great they even put the moog links in instead of the chevy ones

Only complaint I have is I know I will wear this one out and They aren't making any more its just too much fun.

 

I'm at 16000 miles. Initial door sag that scratched paint on door and running board. Warranty and got a loaner for 4 days. Weird code in the cold of winter and that went out after a week. Repair of paint was done at an outside vendor so I've never been back to the dealer.

The Moss-Magnuson Act has become a farce. It takes a lawyer to fight the determination of fault by the dealer and most all folks end up paying out of pocket for the repair.

 

I work in the performance aftermaket and the Moss act is very important to my livelyhood.

But I also know that some parts do and will hurt a stock performing car if not installed and used properly. To be fair for the most part most MFG's are fair and do take care of most issues stock or modified for the most part. But on the other hand no one should also expect them to take care of issues not of their own doing.

It was a real issue on the WRX when owners were tearing clutches out auto crossing and then taking the car to the dealer claiming defect.

The fact is yes some dealers may hard line a few people but on the other hand all too often car owners will trash something and then expect the MFG to fix a issues of their own doing. The shame is some of the honest people on both sides get burned because of some.

It is like I get guys yet that install a cam and wipe a lobe off. They want to blaime the cam but all too often they did not break it in properly, use the break in lube or even check valvetrain geometry and it is binding. Cams just don't have one bad lobe when they are made of the same forging. Often we still take care of it to be nice but we all pay for it in the end.

Like I said before if you can afford to fix something on your own if you have to then don't mess with it.