2.0L Performance Tech 260hp (235hp auto) Turbocharged SS tuner version. 260 lb-ft of torque

I'm gonna get cold air into this motor or else!

Old Jul 18, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Curious how the CAI experiment worked out. Any issues with water or other objects and how did the final plumbing work out?
Old Jul 18, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Just run the ducts from your air conditioner vents, can't get any colder than that.
Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Wow, a 2 year old thread makes a come-back? XXl is still around on the fringes, but wow a 2 year old thread and not an update from XXL wow.
Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by foolmoon_design
Wow, a 2 year old thread makes a come-back? XXl is still around on the fringes, but wow a 2 year old thread and not an update from XXL wow.
REALLY on the fringes.......been about 4 1/2 months since he even visited.

To bad !!! he was fun and knowledgeable.
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 05:25 AM
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i love how this thread's title is "i'm gonna get cold air into this motor or else!"....... yet it's about getting cold air into a hot turbo, which then blows the now hot air into an intercooler mounted on the front of the vehicle and then into the engine. a cold air intake for the turbo is pointless. if you want the air to be any cooler going into the engine...... add water/meth injection or a co2/nitrous intercooler sprayer.

just saying.
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
i love how this thread's title is "i'm gonna get cold air into this motor or else!"....... yet it's about getting cold air into a hot turbo, which then blows the now hot air into an intercooler mounted on the front of the vehicle and then into the engine. a cold air intake for the turbo is pointless. if you want the air to be any cooler going into the engine...... add water/meth injection or a co2/nitrous intercooler sprayer.

just saying.
I actually got PM from him a few months ago, agreed he was a great resource, and always willing to help out! I wonder if he ever figured out his harness problem.

Aggreed also on Meth or Co2. Local speed shop recommended leaving stock IC and then adding the Co2, going to a bigger IC without a bigger turbo(yes, has a larger cooling volume) you actually lose power. Personally to me, Co2 is cheaper to fill on a continous basis, and I'm still leary about adding a mix interanlly. Under the right(wrong) conditions you run the risk of poping your intake. Open valve+misfire=ka-boom! Now if I F-UP the Co2 install, I can pop welds on the IC , or worst case, I could over-cool and compress too much and start to stress the head-bolts, and or cause blow-by on the rings. Either way it's a crap shoot.
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
i love how this thread's title is "i'm gonna get cold air into this motor or else!"....... yet it's about getting cold air into a hot turbo, which then blows the now hot air into an intercooler mounted on the front of the vehicle and then into the engine. a cold air intake for the turbo is pointless. if you want the air to be any cooler going into the engine...... add water/meth injection or a co2/nitrous intercooler sprayer.

just saying.
agreed...ive been saying the same thing for a long time
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
add water/meth injection or a co2/nitrous intercooler sprayer.
Here's some Poindexter info that certainly applies to intercooler heat exchangers. Although I deal with this stuff on a non-automotive basis, this is probably why the HHR SS intrigues me so. Water or meth injection is actually an old technology with a new twist. It's commonly referred to as indirect evaporative cooling (IEC). Evaporative cooling is the simple evaporation of water or other evaporatives. Latent heat is drawn from the air (Latent heat is that of which is absorbed without causing a rise in temperature). Wet-bulb temperature, as compared to the air's dry-bulb temperature, is a measure of the potential for evaporative cooling. The greater the difference between the two temperatures, the greater the evaporative cooling effect. Evaporation rate depends on the humidity of the air and its temperature. With that said, if you have a cold pipe gauge, monitor it on misty days. It might surprise you as you may see a 10d F or more reduction in intake temp which means more condensing of air molecules resulting in more energy.
Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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So in other words our cars run better in the fog.... actually makes sense, as water cools everything, its the alcahol being used to speed up the process I don't care for. It is an old tech, but much needed to keep/increase performance of aircraft especially as altitude increased(think propellers).
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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no different then walking thru a tent mister at outdoor events...slight mist, not even enough to get wet will drop temps considerably....

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