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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Perhaps the gas pedal. There are troubleshooting procedures available on the net.
Old Nov 5, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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donbrew - wasn't there someone here that had a similar issue with high idle speed that eventually returned to normal with several cycles of driving? but it took a week or so to resolve itself.
Old Nov 5, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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I remember that, the TB had to relearn parameters of it's limits program.
Old Nov 5, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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The relearn only takes 3 minutes of idling, or so my research says. Never had the problem myself, just reading.

As I remember, that other one never did post a resolution, Or it was something other.
Old Nov 6, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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I'm back again :)

Tested my car today for about one hour (out of the road of course)
In idle mode TB position - 25% according to OBD2
In idle mode accelerator pedal position ("D") - 19.2%
In idle mode accelerator pedal position ("E") - 9.4%

Acceleration sensor shows some random numbers between -0.1 and 0.9.

Now, how it works without all these numbers:

1. Turn on engine
2. About first 2 or 3 seconds RPMs are around 1k and TB is closed
3. TB is opened for about 50%, RPMs are around 3k (for 5 seconds or so)
4. TB is opened around 25%, RPMs are lowering till 800-900
5. Switching to "R" or "D" is not lowering RPMs
6. After touching accelerator pedal car starts moving (but it's not the same as "idle move on D while you just touch accelerator a bit"). It MOVES. RPMs around 1500, speed - 15-20 mph. And all this WITHOUT pressing accelerator pedal...


So it looks that smth wrong with accelerator. It's default values in idle mode not in normal state.

What should I replace in this case? Looks like accelerator pedal position sensor is not working properly...
Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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It's not clear to me from your posts, but did you reset the ECU after the work mentioned in post #20? If not, that might be all you need. And, make sure you wait a while with the battery disconnected (at least 5 minutes). Otherwise, the ECU could still retain the info you trying to reset.

Whenever I have seen this kind of problem on a drive-by-wire engine, it's almost always been solved by cleaning the throttle body and resetting the ECU. I hope that's all it is, for your sake. If not, it's probably a sensor, but I don't know where to start with that.
Old May 15, 2024 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nakamura
I know.
My thoughts were to clear TB sensor. But when I saw dirty in my TB - decided to clean it too.
I have 2006 chevy hhr replaced the throttle body and have a high idle ever since and I did all the things you all said drove it for a long way 150 miles or so still has a high idle. Can any one help or give clues? Does not seem to want to relearn at all no matter what I do. replaced throttle body because cleaned the old one and map sensor, tps sensor.

Last edited by sweetpea; May 16, 2024 at 12:10 PM.
Old May 16, 2024 | 07:10 AM
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Read the whole thread , lots of suggestions, like disconnect the cable at the battery for 5 minutes at least.
Old May 16, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Why did you replace the TB?
CheckEngineLight on?
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