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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:06 AM
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Living in the flat lands of Florida, I have used "I" gear a couple of times to see what it does. What I saw were higher speed shift points and no shifting into OD. With my auto and a gentle right foot, I'll be in OD at 38 mph. I can feel four distinct shifts when it goes into OD and drop to 1500 rpm.

In my cross country trips I just use D and let the transmission/computer decide when to down shift, which it will do when climbing hills, or high bridges, mostly just out of OD and sometimes down to third gear.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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tunes alleviate allot of the shifting between D and OD
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Lar
Living in the flat lands of Florida, I have used "I" gear a couple of times to see what it does. What I saw were higher speed shift points and no shifting into OD. With my auto and a gentle right foot, I'll be in OD at 38 mph. I can feel four distinct shifts when it goes into OD and drop to 1500 rpm.

In my cross country trips I just use D and let the transmission/computer decide when to down shift, which it will do when climbing hills, or high bridges, mostly just out of OD and sometimes down to third gear.
Lar are you sure about this. If you can feel 4 distinct shifts you have a 5 speed trans and GM did not use a 5 speed, as OEM, in the HHR.

Also, I believe our trans is designated as a 4T45e. Unless GM has changed their "codings", the 4T indicates a 4 speed and the "e" as, "electronic".
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cj krause
3 shifts makes 4 speed
Right,4 speeds, 4th is OD.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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With a "Lock Up" torque converter, that can feel like another shift as it engages under certain road speeds.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Donbrew, I don't think that is correct. There apparently is a fourth gear which shifts to OD under proper circumstances.

See my EDITED comments above.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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No, 4th gear is OD ! Then the TQ locks up. The E is because the "commands" to shift gears come from the TCM, instead of the old fashioned way.

When I am driving gently I can feel the TQ lock up at around 40MPH.

I hate using my stupid phone for this stuff.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Ahhhhhh, I see what is happening. I'm using the same terms for TQ and OD. In other words, I was saying OD for the TQ.

So, the trans is a 4 speed NOT including the TQ?

Just for comparison sake, mine locks up at exactly 44 MPH.
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Yes, but.... TorqueConvertor lock is not a gear, it just turns the trans into a "standard" transmission, until that clutch is released and the TC can freewheel again.

OOPS. I see that I have been typing a Q when I mean to be typing a C., Sorry for confusing everybody.:embarrassed:

Basically there is a clutch, but it only controls the TC for better MPG while at cruising speed.
Old Dec 11, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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guess I should have said I feel it shifting into only 3 gears, not 3 shifts. Maybe you all could help me figure out things using the tach.

So how many rpm's should it be turning at 60 mph if it's in a fourth gear? (everything stock)

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