Sway Bars
Something to think about before the newer drivers( those that havn't had a lot of time behind a "slot type car" ) This Sway Bar is 22mm thick..the SS front bar is 23mm, the LSS/LT cars are less(anybody know exactly what?) when you have a rear bar thats thicker then the front it offsets the balance of the front and rear, meaning the rear will be stiffer then the front in cornering.This is not a desirable trait as it will produce some interesting results when you slam into a corner not prepared for it. It will cause oversteer,whereas in stock form its dialed in for understeer as this is more controllable.This will really show up under wet conditions and..snow/ice.
Now i don't know offhand what the front to rear wt ratios are so i don't know exactly how much this will affect these cars.I do know the 27mm bar on an LS works out real nice,doesn't upset the suspension at all..the 22 is a bit lager and stiffer but should work well with the SS but don't get over confident..for a primer on sway bar sizing go to www.automotive.com/123/Anti-sway_bars.shtml or google unbalanced sway bars...
Or go to https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/brakes-%7C-suspension-%7C-shocks-%7C-struts-24/sway-bar-questions-11191/ for some more interesting read
Now i don't know offhand what the front to rear wt ratios are so i don't know exactly how much this will affect these cars.I do know the 27mm bar on an LS works out real nice,doesn't upset the suspension at all..the 22 is a bit lager and stiffer but should work well with the SS but don't get over confident..for a primer on sway bar sizing go to www.automotive.com/123/Anti-sway_bars.shtml or google unbalanced sway bars...
Or go to https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/brakes-%7C-suspension-%7C-shocks-%7C-struts-24/sway-bar-questions-11191/ for some more interesting read
Last edited by IgottaWoody; Nov 6, 2008 at 03:34 AM. Reason: addition
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I was just about to ask the same thing. Maybe the 22mm Progress Tech bar that Turbo Tech sells would have been better than this 25.4mm one.
BTW: There is a sticky at the How To forum with great pics of the Progress Bar install (which is exactly the same except for the size). Super easy to install. They recommend to do it on the ground or with ramps instead of letting the wheels hang.
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-tutorial-library-21/progress-tech-sway-bar-install-2019/
BTW: There is a sticky at the How To forum with great pics of the Progress Bar install (which is exactly the same except for the size). Super easy to install. They recommend to do it on the ground or with ramps instead of letting the wheels hang.
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-tutorial-library-21/progress-tech-sway-bar-install-2019/
There are well over 500 of these bars out there, on every trim of HHR's.
You will be fine, just allow yourself time to get use to the changes :)
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I was just about to ask the same thing. Maybe the 22mm Progress Tech bar that Turbo Tech sells would have been better than this 25.4mm one.
BTW: There is a sticky at the How To forum with great pics of the Progress Bar install (which is exactly the same except for the size). Super easy to install. They recommend to do it on the ground or with ramps instead of letting the wheels hang.
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2019
I was just about to ask the same thing. Maybe the 22mm Progress Tech bar that Turbo Tech sells would have been better than this 25.4mm one.
BTW: There is a sticky at the How To forum with great pics of the Progress Bar install (which is exactly the same except for the size). Super easy to install. They recommend to do it on the ground or with ramps instead of letting the wheels hang.
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2019
I think once you get the TTR bar you will see that it feels really good in control. Again, being the HHR is heavier/taller in the rear end, larger helps. The progress 22MM bar was designed around the cobalt, not the HHR... So the extra size will help the HHR.
i have been wondering the same thing, but from most of the info i have read about it on this forum, people love it and notice increased handle on all of the hhrs. Until recently no one was even riding an SS with one in and then one guy bought it and did a detailed review. So all the info before that was for LS and Lt's.
I think the basic word of warning on it, is just don't go freaking crazy with it. It will help handling and body roll and all that but don't start taking all of your corners too fast.
plus his info is wrong, the turbo tech sway bar is 25.4mm not 22mm.
Also kind of confused by the comment of "when you slam into a corner and are not prepared for it" Who slams into a corner and wasn't thinking that is what they were doing?
I think the basic word of warning on it, is just don't go freaking crazy with it. It will help handling and body roll and all that but don't start taking all of your corners too fast.
plus his info is wrong, the turbo tech sway bar is 25.4mm not 22mm.
Also kind of confused by the comment of "when you slam into a corner and are not prepared for it" Who slams into a corner and wasn't thinking that is what they were doing?
i have been wondering the same thing, but from most of the info i have read about it on this forum, people love it and notice increased handle on all of the hhrs. Until recently no one was even riding an SS with one in and then one guy bought it and did a detailed review. So all the info before that was for LS and Lt's.
I think the basic word of warning on it, is just don't go freaking crazy with it. It will help handling and body roll and all that but don't start taking all of your corners too fast.
plus his info is wrong, the turbo tech sway bar is 25.4mm not 22mm.
Also kind of confused by the comment of "when you slam into a corner and are not prepared for it" Who slams into a corner and wasn't thinking that is what they were doing?
I think the basic word of warning on it, is just don't go freaking crazy with it. It will help handling and body roll and all that but don't start taking all of your corners too fast.
plus his info is wrong, the turbo tech sway bar is 25.4mm not 22mm.
Also kind of confused by the comment of "when you slam into a corner and are not prepared for it" Who slams into a corner and wasn't thinking that is what they were doing?
Last edited by TurboTechRacing; Nov 6, 2008 at 09:20 AM.
i agree, there are a lot of other posts for talking about what the bar will do (i think i pretty much reread all of them last night.)
I just know i'm on the fence for his and really leaning towards getting one. But when these "negative" comments pop up about an addition of a sway bar, it definitely makes me think. I can't drop 200 or so dollars on something and then not like it.
I just know i'm on the fence for his and really leaning towards getting one. But when these "negative" comments pop up about an addition of a sway bar, it definitely makes me think. I can't drop 200 or so dollars on something and then not like it.
i agree, there are a lot of other posts for talking about what the bar will do (i think i pretty much reread all of them last night.)
I just know i'm on the fence for his and really leaning towards getting one. But when these "negative" comments pop up about an addition of a sway bar, it definitely makes me think. I can't drop 200 or so dollars on something and then not like it.
I just know i'm on the fence for his and really leaning towards getting one. But when these "negative" comments pop up about an addition of a sway bar, it definitely makes me think. I can't drop 200 or so dollars on something and then not like it.
We see all the time, members questioning parts (not just sway bars, but all aftermarket parts), and then they end up getting one, and have a whole different opinion... It is just the way humans are I guess


